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you're in the paracast

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the gold standard of paranormal radio

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and now

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with gene and chris we're back at the

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power cast four

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this is technically our second show

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for 2016.

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our first show was recorded the last

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week of december

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so we'll call it the second show and

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we'll get into our guests a little bit

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later right now i do want to bring up

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one thing here

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obviously we've interviewed a few people

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who are real veterans in the ufo field

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getting on in years and such

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and one of them was really one of our

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better guests over the years back in

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2010 was dr frank salisbury who had been

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in the ufo field for

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you know 100 years or so and he died in

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late december i think he was close to 90

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years of age i think he was yeah

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well a classic book that he wrote um the

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great utah ufo display i mean i

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one of the best books about a state or a

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region you know one of your best uh

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regional titles the work that he and

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junior hicks did in the uintah basin

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around the skinwalker ranch area

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is just you know

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a boilerplate for what a lot of other

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people should be doing and he was a real

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inspiration for me and

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i was very happy that i got a chance to

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get to know him a little bit and pick

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his brain and and he was very gracious

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documenting

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citing cases how to interview people

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types of questions to ask you know the

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and uh posture that you should have with

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life-changing sometimes uh experiences

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and he was just he was a really good guy

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a very good teacher for many years in

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i think he'll be missed by by those of

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who knew who he was and and admired and

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appreciated his work now i was looking

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up some information about dr salisbury

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he had written a textbook that was a

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bestseller called plant physiology and

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also geochemistry and the biosphere so

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he had been very much involved in

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botany as a plant physiologist

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it wasn't just ufos this is a solid

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scientist with real credentials

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who gets involved in this field and so

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who are scientists well they ever bother

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or if they do they're not going to admit

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are a ufo researcher

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just think what was it

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was congressman dennis kucinich who was

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what the god son of shirley maclaine or

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something like that and he's running for

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president one year i think 2004 and he

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admits to a ufo sighting whatever

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happened to dennis kucinich well i don't

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shirley maclean stick up for him and

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mention ufo sightings that's like uh

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what was that steve mcqueen movie the

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blob well you could call this the slime

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it's like this big amorphous creature

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that comes out of the tv sets and

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gobbles your candidacy up and uh spits

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it out it's unfortunate

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don't dare be involved in ufos of course

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john podesta who has worked with both

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the clintons and the obamas

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wrote a forward for leslie kane's ufo

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book what so he got away with it and

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then he had a tweet where he hoped to

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get to the bottom of ufos and by the way

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hillary clinton was asked about

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interest in ufos and getting to the

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bottom of the mystery i'm going to ask

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our guest chris rotkowski about that

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because he wrote a piece about it so i'm

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going to look into area 54 in new mexico

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it's like oh okay oops a little freudian

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slip there maybe

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who is there

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there's area 52 the san luis valley uh

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there's area 53 which would probably be

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i don't know dugway or somewhere around

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white sands maybe

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what area

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could it be what does she know that

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she's not telling you know they're

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releasing all her

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emails that were done on her private

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email server oh i can't wait that's

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going to be a bestseller oh i can't wait

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well a lot of them have been released

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already and they are so

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boring

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gefilte fish

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gofilterfish go

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phoenix i can buy gefilte fish here is

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he a bit of shipment well they have to

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send supplies to them

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to arizona and you get half of it i

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don't like a filter fish oh i just have

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fantasies of lathering filter fish on

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on some beautiful uh damsel in distress

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and not never mind

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i've heard of sexual perversions

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gefilte fish i ate the most disgusting

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you actually eat that stuff

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i've have and you like pickled herring

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too i bet i hate herring

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i don't know whenever i hear gefilte

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fish or harry and i just

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it just reminds me of being a little too

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close to the downwind portion of

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denmark you know stockholm somewhere i

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sure but when you were in new york city

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you went to the second avenue deli or

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i loved it but i never got ga filter

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filter fish

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let me tell you a story

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when i was a kid we'd go to my

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grandmother's house

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and she'd make us a kosher meal

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and i'd taste a little bit of it i admit

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but i prefer the chicken and the other

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stuff that's going on there i wasn't so

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crazy about the fish or any fish i do

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not like seafood folks ooh i love

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seafood it used to be my favorite

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cuisine but fukushima wrecked all that

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well there is that i have to ask my son

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he used to like

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sushi but

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the only fish i could tolerate and this

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all right which is tastier than raw tuna

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perhaps no it is

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don't ask me how i could tolerate it i

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could tolerate canned tuna fish

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whatever they are i don't know who does

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think of the water in flint michigan you

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haven't heard about this this

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controversy over flint michigan where

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they changed the water supply and now

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all the children in flint michigan have

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some level of lead poisoning oh great

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this is not a conspiracy theory folks

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oh that's just that's just peachy

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that's the controversy that's going on

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now and movie producer michael moore is

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that this was a a paranormal show

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we're talking about lead poisoning

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gefilte fish and your grandmother

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let's put it this way don't you think

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that the fish has to be

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get filthy fish has to be a horrible

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paranormal experience right

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the gefilte fish that ate brooklyn

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my wife bar i lived i lived in

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when we consider a class act and he's

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also i guess into science fiction to

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some degree since he does this great

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ming the merciless imitation which he

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once performed on radio or twice

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how many times did you do it

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oh i think i did it twice actually

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perhaps a third

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you will

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uh oh we're in trouble now did you see

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by the way the new star wars film i did

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i did yeah

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well we made a big deal of it and the

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cultural myths and everything in last

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week's episode with micah hank so i'm

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going to ask you did you like it

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you know i actually did for me it was

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i'd say it was very very good not great

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i would say not up to uh

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the

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1977

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version

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but i would have to say it was it was

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pretty good i did enjoy it

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i kind of think that the full title is

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star wars the marketing force awakens

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oh absolutely there's no question that

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they

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disney has really calculated this well

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apart from a few glitches with uh not

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having rey as a as an action figure but

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we can we can talk about that some other

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time but uh they really did cash in on

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this um this is really quite remarkable

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and and even for people who aren't that

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into uh star wars uh i'd have to put it

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up in the success category for disney

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well certainly it has surpassed avatar

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in

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see how well it does overseas usually

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though these days if a film could make

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a certain amount of money in the u.s

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it's two or three times that amount

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in overseas receipts oh absolutely it's

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overseas where the money's really made

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people standing in line in omaha don't

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really factor in compared to uh what

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plays in certain parts of asia so yeah

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it will remain to be seen how it plays

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however i think the animation the

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remarkable special effects and the

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virtually identical storyline to the

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1977

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uh version kind of guarantees that

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they're going to have some success

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because a lot of the people

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who are seeing it today really don't

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have the context for 1977 i mean i

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remember

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going to see it

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on a press pass back in 1977

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and when i came back i tried to get my

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colleagues in the science fiction

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society to to go to it and i had trouble

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convincing them it was worth seeing

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because up until then science fiction

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movies where

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oh the day the earth stood still a lot

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of really good or bad rubber uh aliens

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that type of thing but then to go to

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this next step uh was really unexpected

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and really set the genre going in a

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different way well certainly the

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following year they had superman the

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movie because they showed that a big

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budget

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fantasy or sci-fi film could work oh

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yeah absolutely and that i think

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was the

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harbinger of things to come where

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science fiction films could become big

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budget spectaculars although the first

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star wars film i think cost like eight

446
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million dollars

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yeah you know they got it they got their

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bang for their buck uh i think the first

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movie spectacle

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that uh i think a lot of people market

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from and i remember seeing this in the

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movie theaters too was krakatoa east of

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java

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and that was in sense around

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uh which was a big thing back then but

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it was a a full screen extravaganza and

457
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it was a a big budget special effects

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movie that was completely unexpected and

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that actually led to all the other

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disaster movies and then later the

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science fiction movies which followed

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after that so

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uh you know somewhere around the uh the

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early 70s we started getting into some

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really spectacular territory then of

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course star trek the motion picture yeah

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although you know star trek uh number

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one bombed badly uh it took it went into

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what every second

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second movie that was good but uh yeah i

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mean we were starting to see

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uh is what i was describing to someone

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else that this was the stephen spielberg

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generation where you could actually see

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on a movie screen

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all the fantastic ideas and images that

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you could only read about previously and

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i was so wonderful about uh the first

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star trek in 1977 that that you could

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actually visualize this basically space

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opera

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uh shoot him up

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doing so well to capture the imagination

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and and you know have the

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uh such a strong delegation between good

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and bad and you know the bad guy were

487
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black the good guy was in white except

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for the stormtroopers which we won't

489
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talk about uh and then you had these

490
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funny alien creatures uh like yoda which

491
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you know had enough of a bizarre element

492
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in there that really uh got some of the

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the science fiction fans really hyped up

494
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for the possibilities so it was the fact

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that we could visualize or see on the

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screen things that we had only read

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about previously

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that really started the trend going and

499
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of course

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uh now that you have the comic books

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bringing to life on both tv and in the

502
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movies there's a whole generation uh

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from 40 years ago that is finally seeing

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some of the stuff that they had only

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read about previously uh and seeing it

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on the screen and it'll be interesting

507
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to see how long this lasts well the one

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thing here is that even on tv they can

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get half decent special effects and to

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show you how mainstream the comic book

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stories are in the 50s with superman

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after like the first year they basically

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made it just for kids or primarily for

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kids whereas

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now

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the people's choice award which is the

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people voting

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for the best shows and the best actors

519
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and actresses

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the

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drama

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on tv

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is supergirl yeah that was very

524
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surprising i didn't understand that at

525
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all

526
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well it has

527
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you know

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other than the other compared to the

529
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other comic book shows more of a sunny

530
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outlook which might not appeal to a lot

531
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of people the special effects are okay

532
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but you have to compare it

533
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to

534
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earlier examples like for example just

535
00:20:49,669 --> 00:20:46,720
the other day

536
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i was looking at a dvd i had of the

537
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original superman tv series from the

538
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1950s with george reeves yeah and i saw

539
00:20:58,870 --> 00:20:57,280
an episode called panic in the sky and

540
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that's the one where

541
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they have this asteroid coming to the

542
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earth and superman deflects the asteroid

543
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and then loses his memory i mean the

544
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special effects were so bad you can

545
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actually see the asteroid and the little

546
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string suspended above it

547
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holding it in the air that's how bad it

548
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was but they didn't care

549
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no but and that's why when star wars

550
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came along in the 70s

551
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and it really did you know look exactly

552
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like the comic books the the pulp

553
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magazines because star wars is basically

554
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a

555
00:21:54,470 --> 00:21:51,919
strings like thunderbirds you know it's

556
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it was something that really was you

557
00:21:58,789 --> 00:21:57,120
were able to uh to think hey this is

558
00:22:00,950 --> 00:21:58,799
really cool this could be how it could

559
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be in the future now there was one

560
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sci-fi film i remember from the 50s

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other than they the earth stood still

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which had okay special effects and that

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was earth versus the flying saucers

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your special effects were stop-motion

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from ray harryhausen they were very good

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the

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the first 30 or 40 seconds of the actual

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film

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major kehoe never quite lived that down

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this is jerome clark author of the ufo

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encyclopedia and other books you're

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listening to the paracast

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let us continue folks with chris

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witkowski and we're starting off before

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we get into the ufo paranormal realm

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with a little bit of pop culture and

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sci-fi

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since he has a deep interest in that and

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we were mentioning films that had

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a-list production values davier stood

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still forbidden planet which is very

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much

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a precursor to star trek like the leslie

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nielsen character and captain kirk

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william shatner think about how much

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they learned my all-time favorite the

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one that i think really moved the the

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bar

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was douglas trumbull's work on 2001 a

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space odyssey the stanley kubrick

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classic

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um some of the shots

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in that were groundbreaking

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it was your first real

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realistic view of space i think uh the

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fact that the soundtrack was purposely

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left silent in many of the um of the big

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expansive space shots and they just

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maybe would have some classical music or

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it was just very very dramatic and very

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effective and i think that that really

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did

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just leap frog uh the whole genre uh

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forward the light years of course i'm

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partial to anything that kubrick does so

725
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yeah and there's no question that it was

726
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definitely groundbreaking and it was a

727
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fantastic science fiction movie but the

728
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problem is people didn't understand it

729
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whereas star wars was very simple you

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know bad guy good guy shoot him up uh

731
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have to rescue the maiden all that sort

732
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of stuff it was very familiar it was

733
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something that was easily relatable

734
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whereas 2001 made people have to think

735
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and uh it did well in the box office uh

736
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eventually but it didn't have the impact

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in terms of the public

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um

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right you didn't have all your real

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archetypal characters and absolutely

741
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because it was mythological

742
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tie-ins to joseph campbell and that sort

743
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of thing but

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hey anything at least in my estimation

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anything that makes people think

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is a good thing

747
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right and uh you know there's not enough

748
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of that going on there's not enough of

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that

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exactly

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at least that amongst itself makes it

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interesting making a sci-fi film a

753
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thought piece and these days on tv and

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in the movies

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sci-fi is commonplace now maybe it's not

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always the more sophisticated sci-fi

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that the really

758
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dedicated fans might prefer but

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they get there they had childhoods end

760
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the arthur c clarke

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novel from the 50s it became

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a three-part mini-series for sci-fi

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channel absolutely i didn't get a chance

764
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to see it because we don't get that

765
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channel up here but you know that's true

766
00:30:01,029 --> 00:29:58,000
you know we've got that the man in the

767
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high castle was also just on uh i think

768
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it's still on isn't that the series

769
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still running you know a lot of these

770
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classics are being turned into uh tv

771
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series and because of the relatively

772
00:30:13,990 --> 00:30:10,880
high budgets you know on netflix and

773
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amazon and yahoo and so forth that the

774
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special effects are right up there and

775
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you can think of them as just long

776
00:30:22,710 --> 00:30:20,399
versions of movies about these

777
00:30:24,789 --> 00:30:22,720
particular novels

778
00:30:27,190 --> 00:30:24,799
yeah another good one from back in the

779
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late 60s was silent running

780
00:30:31,350 --> 00:30:29,760
which is an often overlooked uh film

781
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isn't that the one with bruce dern as

782
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the gardener in space i if i remember

783
00:30:38,230 --> 00:30:35,279
right and of course those were the

784
00:30:40,470 --> 00:30:38,240
predecessors of r2d2 too the uh the

785
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little drones yeah it was uh you know a

786
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lot of the stuff uh you know back then

787
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was visualizing and of course we have to

788
00:30:47,669 --> 00:30:46,720
mention close encounters is the third

789
00:30:51,430 --> 00:30:47,679
kind

790
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uh i had met alan heineck just as he had

791
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finished uh shooting that final scene

792
00:30:58,389 --> 00:30:56,640
he was uh you know giving us a couple of

793
00:31:00,789 --> 00:30:58,399
spoilers about what was going on and how

794
00:31:01,909 --> 00:31:00,799
they use little girls as the aliens and

795
00:31:04,070 --> 00:31:01,919
and uh

796
00:31:05,990 --> 00:31:04,080
how he ad-libbed the the bit about his

797
00:31:07,830 --> 00:31:06,000
pipe and things like that but it was

798
00:31:09,909 --> 00:31:07,840
very interesting to see you know there

799
00:31:11,750 --> 00:31:09,919
was an original film not based on some

800
00:31:12,950 --> 00:31:11,760
of the classic uh science fiction

801
00:31:15,510 --> 00:31:12,960
literature

802
00:31:18,230 --> 00:31:15,520
but really which was playing to the

803
00:31:19,990 --> 00:31:18,240
popularity of ufos and flying saucers

804
00:31:21,830 --> 00:31:20,000
which had been brewing for you know a

805
00:31:23,029 --> 00:31:21,840
couple of decades at that point and you

806
00:31:25,430 --> 00:31:23,039
mentioned earth versus the flying

807
00:31:27,190 --> 00:31:25,440
saucers based on kehoe's book and yet

808
00:31:29,990 --> 00:31:27,200
you know we there were not a lot of

809
00:31:32,950 --> 00:31:30,000
movies that really played to

810
00:31:34,549 --> 00:31:32,960
you know new ideas and visualizations of

811
00:31:37,029 --> 00:31:34,559
what people had been reporting as a

812
00:31:39,509 --> 00:31:37,039
basis of you know what the the films and

813
00:31:41,029 --> 00:31:39,519
and um tv shows at the time i mean you

814
00:31:43,269 --> 00:31:41,039
have to ignore things like my favorite

815
00:31:45,269 --> 00:31:43,279
martian and i dream of genie which all

816
00:31:47,430 --> 00:31:45,279
had episodes involving flying saucers

817
00:31:50,789 --> 00:31:47,440
but those are more as jokes and yet

818
00:31:52,789 --> 00:31:50,799
close encounters captured that idea uh

819
00:31:54,549 --> 00:31:52,799
very nicely about to the fact that what

820
00:31:56,310 --> 00:31:54,559
if this is real and what if these are

821
00:31:58,149 --> 00:31:56,320
the things that are really going on

822
00:32:01,110 --> 00:31:58,159
so much for science fiction let's look a

823
00:32:03,590 --> 00:32:01,120
little bit at science fact or what one

824
00:32:04,710 --> 00:32:03,600
perceives to be science fact no for a

825
00:32:07,669 --> 00:32:04,720
second there i thought you were going to

826
00:32:09,750 --> 00:32:07,679
talk about ufos phew well you know what

827
00:32:13,269 --> 00:32:09,760
who knows

828
00:32:16,149 --> 00:32:13,279
all right so let's look at this we have

829
00:32:18,310 --> 00:32:16,159
occasionally the stories of presidential

830
00:32:20,789 --> 00:32:18,320
candidates vowing

831
00:32:23,269 --> 00:32:20,799
to look into ufos

832
00:32:25,669 --> 00:32:23,279
and certainly jimmy carter who saw ufo

833
00:32:27,430 --> 00:32:25,679
didn't really do that

834
00:32:29,110 --> 00:32:27,440
they asked bill clinton he didn't but

835
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now hillary

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hillary clinton secretary of state

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and former u.s senator and former first

838
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lady running for president

839
00:32:41,590 --> 00:32:39,440
she has been asked about ufos

840
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and she's giving a promising answer or

841
00:32:45,269 --> 00:32:43,760
just one of those answers where

842
00:32:47,029 --> 00:32:45,279
well

843
00:32:48,310 --> 00:32:47,039
maybe she's trying to

844
00:32:50,389 --> 00:32:48,320
shall we say

845
00:32:52,630 --> 00:32:50,399
placate people what do you think

846
00:32:54,310 --> 00:32:52,640
well i think cnn had it right cnn

847
00:32:56,630 --> 00:32:54,320
actually did cover

848
00:32:59,430 --> 00:32:56,640
uh the comment but they had it right in

849
00:33:01,190 --> 00:32:59,440
that it was a joke

850
00:33:03,509 --> 00:33:01,200
and you know we have to understand that

851
00:33:06,310 --> 00:33:03,519
in the context of what was happening

852
00:33:07,830 --> 00:33:06,320
um there was a news conference going on

853
00:33:10,789 --> 00:33:07,840
she had been asked

854
00:33:13,750 --> 00:33:10,799
uh quite a lot of other questions about

855
00:33:16,070 --> 00:33:13,760
everything from syria to uh

856
00:33:19,029 --> 00:33:16,080
gun control and uh

857
00:33:20,470 --> 00:33:19,039
uh you know everything in between um

858
00:33:23,830 --> 00:33:20,480
and towards the end of the news

859
00:33:25,509 --> 00:33:23,840
conference um this fellow you know uh

860
00:33:27,509 --> 00:33:25,519
you know who was patiently waiting in

861
00:33:29,590 --> 00:33:27,519
line and then he sprung this question on

862
00:33:32,149 --> 00:33:29,600
her about uh you know what are you gonna

863
00:33:34,310 --> 00:33:32,159
do or will you reveal the truth about

864
00:33:36,950 --> 00:33:34,320
uh what's going on with regard to ufos

865
00:33:39,909 --> 00:33:36,960
and apparently he had actually asked her

866
00:33:41,509 --> 00:33:39,919
a similar question a number of years ago

867
00:33:43,909 --> 00:33:41,519
and she remembered you know in the

868
00:33:47,190 --> 00:33:43,919
context of who this guy was

869
00:33:48,070 --> 00:33:47,200
now in the context of what was going on

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00:33:53,350 --> 00:33:48,080
um

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00:33:55,750 --> 00:33:53,360
sort of a binge

872
00:33:57,509 --> 00:33:55,760
going from uh across the country uh

873
00:34:00,549 --> 00:33:57,519
campaigning

874
00:34:01,350 --> 00:34:00,559
what would you do to reply to a question

875
00:34:05,509 --> 00:34:01,360
that

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00:34:07,269 --> 00:34:05,519
could have ridiculed him

877
00:34:11,589 --> 00:34:07,279
she could have

878
00:34:13,510 --> 00:34:11,599
something to

879
00:34:16,069 --> 00:34:13,520
sort of not dismiss the question but

880
00:34:17,349 --> 00:34:16,079
placate and sort of get onto other

881
00:34:19,190 --> 00:34:17,359
things

882
00:34:21,750 --> 00:34:19,200
so ridicule wouldn't have worked because

883
00:34:23,430 --> 00:34:21,760
she was in a room full of reporters and

884
00:34:25,589 --> 00:34:23,440
uh ridiculing another person for their

885
00:34:27,909 --> 00:34:25,599
beliefs is taboo especially on the

886
00:34:29,030 --> 00:34:27,919
campaign trail she couldn't ignore it

887
00:34:29,909 --> 00:34:29,040
because

888
00:34:33,030 --> 00:34:29,919
um

889
00:34:34,710 --> 00:34:33,040
by the way that newsies go

890
00:34:38,230 --> 00:34:34,720
you do actually have to answer the

891
00:34:40,149 --> 00:34:38,240
questions um or the the person after you

892
00:34:42,389 --> 00:34:40,159
um has an option of asking the same

893
00:34:44,950 --> 00:34:42,399
question and you don't want to do that

894
00:34:47,270 --> 00:34:44,960
so the only option that she had was to

895
00:34:49,430 --> 00:34:47,280
say oh yeah sure i'm gonna you know get

896
00:34:51,190 --> 00:34:49,440
to the bottom of it

897
00:34:53,909 --> 00:34:51,200
um which

898
00:34:56,550 --> 00:34:53,919
we means what exactly number one

899
00:34:58,470 --> 00:34:56,560
you know candidates very rarely

900
00:35:01,510 --> 00:34:58,480
uh follow through with their promises

901
00:35:02,790 --> 00:35:01,520
anyway whether it has to do with ufos or

902
00:35:04,710 --> 00:35:02,800
you know um

903
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you know chickens in every pot and all

904
00:35:08,710 --> 00:35:06,880
this sort of stuff you mean donald trump

905
00:35:10,710 --> 00:35:08,720
is lying when he says he's going to get

906
00:35:13,670 --> 00:35:10,720
mexico to pay

907
00:35:15,589 --> 00:35:13,680
for the wall at our southern borders hey

908
00:35:17,349 --> 00:35:15,599
they want to he wants to put a border

909
00:35:18,630 --> 00:35:17,359
against canada too you know which i

910
00:35:20,230 --> 00:35:18,640
think would be good because we want to

911
00:35:21,109 --> 00:35:20,240
keep him out as well

912
00:35:22,870 --> 00:35:21,119
um

913
00:35:25,190 --> 00:35:22,880
well you see in that case we'd have to

914
00:35:25,910 --> 00:35:25,200
have borders around every locality he's

915
00:35:28,470 --> 00:35:25,920
in

916
00:35:29,430 --> 00:35:28,480
yeah yeah you know he has the money he

917
00:35:31,750 --> 00:35:29,440
can do it

918
00:35:34,310 --> 00:35:31,760
but yeah no i think that in this case it

919
00:35:36,550 --> 00:35:34,320
really meant nothing and i've seen um

920
00:35:38,310 --> 00:35:36,560
people hyping this in facebook groups

921
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and various other internet posts and

922
00:35:42,630 --> 00:35:40,400
things like that about how this is uh

923
00:35:44,790 --> 00:35:42,640
this was a bomb this was ground

924
00:35:46,950 --> 00:35:44,800
shattering that you know the truth will

925
00:35:49,349 --> 00:35:46,960
be revealed and hillary you know

926
00:35:50,790 --> 00:35:49,359
is shown her true colors

927
00:35:54,150 --> 00:35:50,800
and like i say

928
00:35:55,750 --> 00:35:54,160
cnn had it right that it was just a dis

929
00:35:57,589 --> 00:35:55,760
not a dismissive comment but a comment

930
00:35:59,109 --> 00:35:57,599
just yeah yeah okay i'll look into it

931
00:36:00,310 --> 00:35:59,119
and everybody in the room thought it was

932
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a real joke

933
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and if you think that that in any way

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raises the public consciousness about

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ufos or it raises awareness that does

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the exact opposite

937
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it makes people consider the the field

938
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of ufology even uh less likely and uh

939
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less seriously so the person asking the

940
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question actually did more damage to

941
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ufology than anything else and hillary's

942
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comment was basically yeah okay i'll get

943
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to the bottom of it i'll look into it

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i bet that day she called her aides and

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hi this is don ecker and you are tuned

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in to the paracast let me tell you what

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you're going to hear stuff here that you

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probably won't hear anywhere else hear

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00:41:18,390 --> 00:41:15,520
that george snorri

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chris rutkowski joins us with gene and

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kk

1050
00:41:24,390 --> 00:41:22,160
and we're starting to talk about

1051
00:41:26,309 --> 00:41:24,400
the interests of presidential candidates

1052
00:41:28,470 --> 00:41:26,319
or lack thereof

1053
00:41:30,870 --> 00:41:28,480
in ufos of course the real secret is

1054
00:41:33,589 --> 00:41:30,880
that maybe one of hillary clinton's

1055
00:41:35,910 --> 00:41:33,599
unreleased personal emails has the

1056
00:41:39,109 --> 00:41:35,920
secret to ufos but the other fact is

1057
00:41:41,910 --> 00:41:39,119
that john podesta who's one of her

1058
00:41:45,190 --> 00:41:41,920
friends and as a manager of her campaign

1059
00:41:45,990 --> 00:41:45,200
has a real interest in ufos absolutely

1060
00:41:48,790 --> 00:41:46,000
and

1061
00:41:51,510 --> 00:41:48,800
what i can say is that uh i have a real

1062
00:41:53,750 --> 00:41:51,520
interest in ufos too and i

1063
00:41:56,470 --> 00:41:53,760
uh you know can talk about the x-files

1064
00:41:58,470 --> 00:41:56,480
and i've dressed up as uh as fox mulder

1065
00:42:00,870 --> 00:41:58,480
for halloween and all that sort of stuff

1066
00:42:02,710 --> 00:42:00,880
too and i have a responsible position in

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an administration not a presidential

1068
00:42:08,309 --> 00:42:04,640
administration but an administration at

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00:42:10,069 --> 00:42:08,319
a at a major university and i've even

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received an award

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for

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00:42:16,790 --> 00:42:14,000
um speaking to the public

1073
00:42:18,710 --> 00:42:16,800
about science uh in the context of uh

1074
00:42:19,349 --> 00:42:18,720
you know talking about ufos and space

1075
00:42:24,630 --> 00:42:19,359
and

1076
00:42:25,990 --> 00:42:24,640
yeah you know people in positions of

1077
00:42:28,790 --> 00:42:26,000
relative power

1078
00:42:30,630 --> 00:42:28,800
uh in terms of podesta uh certainly have

1079
00:42:32,630 --> 00:42:30,640
their own interests but that does not

1080
00:42:35,109 --> 00:42:32,640
mean that they have any insight or

1081
00:42:36,630 --> 00:42:35,119
influence just simply means that uh hey

1082
00:42:39,430 --> 00:42:36,640
you know this is kind of what i'm into

1083
00:42:41,750 --> 00:42:39,440
it i mean what if he was a bird watcher

1084
00:42:43,750 --> 00:42:41,760
would he be in oregon right now telling

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00:42:45,430 --> 00:42:43,760
hillary to to do something with what's

1086
00:42:48,230 --> 00:42:45,440
going on in oregon i mean

1087
00:42:50,790 --> 00:42:48,240
uh it simply is a personal interest of

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00:42:52,870 --> 00:42:50,800
his and i simply don't buy

1089
00:42:55,109 --> 00:42:52,880
you know the the belief that he has some

1090
00:42:56,630 --> 00:42:55,119
sort of influence on other people in the

1091
00:42:59,990 --> 00:42:56,640
administration

1092
00:43:03,109 --> 00:43:00,000
let's talk about presidents in general

1093
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do you think any president had enough

1094
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interest to really follow through well

1095
00:43:10,230 --> 00:43:08,560
you know coming here coming from canada

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i don't know enough about it and i have

1097
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to tell you that grant cameron

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has gone to presidential libraries he's

1099
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spent time finding documents

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uh so he's really the guy and i'm sure

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he's been on your show talking about

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uh you know the presidential connections

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i personally don't think uh i mean i

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know one of the prevailing views is that

1105
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is that the secret about ufos and area

1106
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51 and the aliens in the underground

1107
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base and so forth um is at a a secret

1108
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level higher than that which has allowed

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the president and that there there's

1110
00:43:47,109 --> 00:43:44,240
some sort of what was it the term that i

1111
00:43:50,069 --> 00:43:47,119
read somewhere a transnational

1112
00:43:51,990 --> 00:43:50,079
um bureaucratic elite group

1113
00:43:54,630 --> 00:43:52,000
that uh is actually is there any other

1114
00:43:56,309 --> 00:43:54,640
kind yeah exactly are you talking about

1115
00:43:57,430 --> 00:43:56,319
coke or apple

1116
00:43:58,710 --> 00:43:57,440
but these are the people who are

1117
00:44:00,950 --> 00:43:58,720
actually in charge so that the president

1118
00:44:03,190 --> 00:44:00,960
of the united states himself or herself

1119
00:44:04,950 --> 00:44:03,200
uh will actually never know the details

1120
00:44:07,670 --> 00:44:04,960
or be allowed the details

1121
00:44:09,190 --> 00:44:07,680
if you put it in that context there of

1122
00:44:11,349 --> 00:44:09,200
course are

1123
00:44:13,270 --> 00:44:11,359
probably a number of things that the

1124
00:44:16,550 --> 00:44:13,280
chief of staff probably doesn't have

1125
00:44:19,430 --> 00:44:16,560
privy to he wouldn't have the details

1126
00:44:21,270 --> 00:44:19,440
on uh secret clandestine operations in

1127
00:44:22,630 --> 00:44:21,280
the middle east down to that level

1128
00:44:24,630 --> 00:44:22,640
anyways he would be told there's

1129
00:44:26,790 --> 00:44:24,640
something going on but he wouldn't be

1130
00:44:28,710 --> 00:44:26,800
told all the details in fact they might

1131
00:44:30,710 --> 00:44:28,720
tell him for his own protection so that

1132
00:44:33,349 --> 00:44:30,720
he can say something in public along the

1133
00:44:35,589 --> 00:44:33,359
lines of really i've no i i've no uh

1134
00:44:37,030 --> 00:44:35,599
information about uh this question if

1135
00:44:38,390 --> 00:44:37,040
he's ever questioned about what's going

1136
00:44:40,230 --> 00:44:38,400
on so

1137
00:44:42,870 --> 00:44:40,240
i would say there certainly are things

1138
00:44:44,630 --> 00:44:42,880
that chiefs of staff probably wouldn't

1139
00:44:46,230 --> 00:44:44,640
be privy to

1140
00:44:49,030 --> 00:44:46,240
and whether the ufo thing is one of

1141
00:44:51,589 --> 00:44:49,040
those or not it just i don't see

1142
00:44:53,670 --> 00:44:51,599
how any president

1143
00:44:55,589 --> 00:44:53,680
would be given access to something like

1144
00:44:59,109 --> 00:44:55,599
that if it really existed in the fact

1145
00:45:01,349 --> 00:44:59,119
that no president has even come close to

1146
00:45:03,190 --> 00:45:01,359
admitting it except in these interviews

1147
00:45:04,710 --> 00:45:03,200
where they sort of joke around about oh

1148
00:45:06,390 --> 00:45:04,720
yeah we have little guys in the in the

1149
00:45:08,870 --> 00:45:06,400
basement and all this sort of stuff on a

1150
00:45:10,470 --> 00:45:08,880
number of occasions like clinton did and

1151
00:45:13,030 --> 00:45:10,480
uh a few others

1152
00:45:15,109 --> 00:45:13,040
bush did at one point that that yeah you

1153
00:45:16,950 --> 00:45:15,119
know they're gonna say something because

1154
00:45:19,510 --> 00:45:16,960
people are asking about it but they may

1155
00:45:21,750 --> 00:45:19,520
not have the information themselves

1156
00:45:23,349 --> 00:45:21,760
uh so i i suspect that presidents

1157
00:45:26,470 --> 00:45:23,359
themselves don't have access to these

1158
00:45:28,550 --> 00:45:26,480
things if they exist and the chances of

1159
00:45:31,270 --> 00:45:28,560
anything existing like that at all are

1160
00:45:32,870 --> 00:45:31,280
pretty slim they talk about plausible

1161
00:45:34,870 --> 00:45:32,880
deniability but then you see what's

1162
00:45:36,470 --> 00:45:34,880
going to happen if there was really a

1163
00:45:39,349 --> 00:45:36,480
revelation of something like this

1164
00:45:42,390 --> 00:45:39,359
anything that maybe is being done on a

1165
00:45:45,190 --> 00:45:42,400
security or a top secret basis

1166
00:45:47,430 --> 00:45:45,200
and it gets revealed fox news if it's a

1167
00:45:49,349 --> 00:45:47,440
democrat or some other station if it's a

1168
00:45:52,069 --> 00:45:49,359
republican president will say

1169
00:45:53,829 --> 00:45:52,079
well he's really not paying attention

1170
00:45:55,349 --> 00:45:53,839
he's inattentive because he didn't know

1171
00:45:58,630 --> 00:45:55,359
this was going on

1172
00:46:01,589 --> 00:45:58,640
that's true but you could say that about

1173
00:46:04,470 --> 00:46:01,599
benghazi uh you could say that about any

1174
00:46:06,790 --> 00:46:04,480
major major event that uh you know that

1175
00:46:08,710 --> 00:46:06,800
hasn't been told to the public so

1176
00:46:11,349 --> 00:46:08,720
benghazi i don't think there's anything

1177
00:46:13,750 --> 00:46:11,359
at this point left being revealed except

1178
00:46:16,309 --> 00:46:13,760
how to shore up security i think that's

1179
00:46:18,069 --> 00:46:16,319
mostly a partisan fishing expedition i

1180
00:46:20,470 --> 00:46:18,079
mean if you go through us history you'll

1181
00:46:22,950 --> 00:46:20,480
see that there have been attacks at u.s

1182
00:46:25,270 --> 00:46:22,960
diplomatic installations

1183
00:46:27,750 --> 00:46:25,280
for years and sometimes people died

1184
00:46:29,270 --> 00:46:27,760
maybe not necessarily the chief diplomat

1185
00:46:31,349 --> 00:46:29,280
or the ambassador

1186
00:46:33,430 --> 00:46:31,359
but people die it happened during the

1187
00:46:35,270 --> 00:46:33,440
second bush administration it happened

1188
00:46:36,390 --> 00:46:35,280
during the clinton administration it

1189
00:46:38,390 --> 00:46:36,400
happened during the first bush

1190
00:46:41,190 --> 00:46:38,400
administration it happened when reagan

1191
00:46:44,069 --> 00:46:41,200
was president but not everyone deserves

1192
00:46:46,309 --> 00:46:44,079
10 different congressional hearings

1193
00:46:47,670 --> 00:46:46,319
i agree completely it's kind of wacky

1194
00:46:49,990 --> 00:46:47,680
but let's not get into that maybe we

1195
00:46:51,990 --> 00:46:50,000
should talk about area 54. i think

1196
00:46:53,910 --> 00:46:52,000
exactly yeah

1197
00:46:55,750 --> 00:46:53,920
i think that was the example to

1198
00:46:57,829 --> 00:46:55,760
demonstrate that she wasn't taking it

1199
00:46:59,190 --> 00:46:57,839
seriously as soon as she said oh area

1200
00:47:00,230 --> 00:46:59,200
54.

1201
00:47:02,069 --> 00:47:00,240
you know

1202
00:47:03,990 --> 00:47:02,079
that was it yeah

1203
00:47:05,910 --> 00:47:04,000
yeah absolutely you said area 54 in new

1204
00:47:08,870 --> 00:47:05,920
mexico which i found to be a little bit

1205
00:47:12,069 --> 00:47:08,880
intriguing well you know new mexico

1206
00:47:16,550 --> 00:47:14,550
i mean the fact is that uh you know that

1207
00:47:18,390 --> 00:47:16,560
uh there's so many stories kicking

1208
00:47:19,670 --> 00:47:18,400
around and because she's not paying

1209
00:47:23,190 --> 00:47:19,680
attention

1210
00:47:26,309 --> 00:47:23,200
um and i now who was it was it somebody

1211
00:47:28,950 --> 00:47:26,319
had i looked at the video of

1212
00:47:32,069 --> 00:47:28,960
um obama while he was being interviewed

1213
00:47:35,829 --> 00:47:32,079
by jimmy fallon or colbert or somebody

1214
00:47:37,910 --> 00:47:35,839
and uh somebody who who was with the cia

1215
00:47:39,990 --> 00:47:37,920
and no it was ben hanson that was what i

1216
00:47:41,510 --> 00:47:40,000
think he used to be with the fbi he he

1217
00:47:44,950 --> 00:47:41,520
presented some interesting arguments

1218
00:47:46,870 --> 00:47:44,960
that uh that obama was uh you know lying

1219
00:47:49,190 --> 00:47:46,880
or or uh you know caught out and that

1220
00:47:50,870 --> 00:47:49,200
that sort of stuff uh i respect then

1221
00:47:52,309 --> 00:47:50,880
i've i've been a number of conferences

1222
00:47:53,510 --> 00:47:52,319
with him had you know dinner with him a

1223
00:47:56,150 --> 00:47:53,520
couple of times

1224
00:47:58,550 --> 00:47:56,160
um and he you know would know

1225
00:48:01,190 --> 00:47:58,560
more about that than i would i just

1226
00:48:03,589 --> 00:48:01,200
don't buy it there's just um

1227
00:48:05,589 --> 00:48:03,599
my intuition is just

1228
00:48:07,030 --> 00:48:05,599
it just isn't sufficient for me to say

1229
00:48:08,230 --> 00:48:07,040
that there definitely is something going

1230
00:48:14,710 --> 00:48:08,240
on

1231
00:48:16,470 --> 00:48:14,720
government official in a major western

1232
00:48:19,030 --> 00:48:16,480
nation canada

1233
00:48:21,910 --> 00:48:19,040
us uk

1234
00:48:24,069 --> 00:48:21,920
are the actual government leaders privy

1235
00:48:26,069 --> 00:48:24,079
to anything of this nature would they be

1236
00:48:29,270 --> 00:48:26,079
would that be something where they'd

1237
00:48:32,150 --> 00:48:29,280
rather not let them know or again it's

1238
00:48:33,829 --> 00:48:32,160
above their need to know yeah i think

1239
00:48:36,309 --> 00:48:33,839
it's true in the

1240
00:48:38,710 --> 00:48:36,319
in the military compartmentalization

1241
00:48:40,309 --> 00:48:38,720
um it would be out of their purview they

1242
00:48:43,109 --> 00:48:40,319
would not need to know this type of

1243
00:48:45,109 --> 00:48:43,119
thing in fact it would harm them

1244
00:48:47,030 --> 00:48:45,119
if they did know because if they were

1245
00:48:49,670 --> 00:48:47,040
actually questioned about it

1246
00:48:51,589 --> 00:48:49,680
they'd be in a position to lie and

1247
00:48:53,750 --> 00:48:51,599
even though they probably you know do

1248
00:48:55,750 --> 00:48:53,760
that quite a bit anyways the less they

1249
00:48:57,349 --> 00:48:55,760
have to do of that the better so it's

1250
00:48:58,390 --> 00:48:57,359
actually better for them not to know the

1251
00:49:00,390 --> 00:48:58,400
details

1252
00:49:03,030 --> 00:49:00,400
having said that there's no question

1253
00:49:05,829 --> 00:49:03,040
that there's a lot of cases and

1254
00:49:07,670 --> 00:49:05,839
information related to ufos

1255
00:49:09,910 --> 00:49:07,680
that are being kept from the public i

1256
00:49:13,030 --> 00:49:09,920
mean it just stands to reason

1257
00:49:16,309 --> 00:49:13,040
that there's uh sightings

1258
00:49:18,309 --> 00:49:16,319
by military personnel covert personnel

1259
00:49:20,390 --> 00:49:18,319
in areas where they're you know not

1260
00:49:22,309 --> 00:49:20,400
necessarily by the personnel themselves

1261
00:49:24,150 --> 00:49:22,319
but in areas that are very secure where

1262
00:49:26,309 --> 00:49:24,160
things have happened

1263
00:49:28,150 --> 00:49:26,319
there's no question that

1264
00:49:30,230 --> 00:49:28,160
some stuff is being kept from the public

1265
00:49:31,510 --> 00:49:30,240
it it makes sense that there would be

1266
00:49:32,790 --> 00:49:31,520
some things kept from the public does

1267
00:49:34,630 --> 00:49:32,800
that mean that there's a cover-up does

1268
00:49:36,549 --> 00:49:34,640
that mean that there's a you know a need

1269
00:49:38,630 --> 00:49:36,559
for disclosure i don't think so it

1270
00:49:41,109 --> 00:49:38,640
simply means that that's the way

1271
00:49:42,309 --> 00:49:41,119
that information is handled um in this

1272
00:49:44,790 --> 00:49:42,319
age where

1273
00:49:45,829 --> 00:49:44,800
uh you know we do have uh security

1274
00:49:47,349 --> 00:49:45,839
issues

1275
00:49:49,030 --> 00:49:47,359
around the globe

1276
00:49:50,069 --> 00:49:49,040
well we've been seeing more and more

1277
00:49:52,549 --> 00:49:50,079
lately

1278
00:49:54,150 --> 00:49:52,559
uh claims that uh there's facilities on

1279
00:49:56,230 --> 00:49:54,160
the moon that there may even be

1280
00:49:58,390 --> 00:49:56,240
facilities on mars

1281
00:50:00,870 --> 00:49:58,400
and that there's you know richard dolan

1282
00:50:02,790 --> 00:50:00,880
coin the term breakaway civilization

1283
00:50:04,549 --> 00:50:02,800
uh where do you come down on the

1284
00:50:06,390 --> 00:50:04,559
possibility that

1285
00:50:07,990 --> 00:50:06,400
somehow um

1286
00:50:10,230 --> 00:50:08,000
through some sort of technological

1287
00:50:11,589 --> 00:50:10,240
breakthrough or otherwise that um humans

1288
00:50:13,430 --> 00:50:11,599
have already been

1289
00:50:15,109 --> 00:50:13,440
back to the moon

1290
00:50:16,870 --> 00:50:15,119
that they've established some sort of

1291
00:50:19,349 --> 00:50:16,880
presence on mars do you think that

1292
00:50:21,910 --> 00:50:19,359
there's any evidence that is intriguing

1293
00:50:23,510 --> 00:50:21,920
enough to look into in that regard

1294
00:50:25,109 --> 00:50:23,520
well i refer to the first half hour of

1295
00:50:27,430 --> 00:50:25,119
this program which started out clearly

1296
00:50:30,309 --> 00:50:27,440
in the science fiction realm

1297
00:50:31,589 --> 00:50:30,319
i don't see any evidence

1298
00:50:32,870 --> 00:50:31,599
and

1299
00:50:35,190 --> 00:50:32,880
you know there's a lot of amateur

1300
00:50:36,790 --> 00:50:35,200
astronomers who aren't controlled by

1301
00:50:39,349 --> 00:50:36,800
them

1302
00:50:41,910 --> 00:50:39,359
who are constantly looking at the moon

1303
00:50:43,829 --> 00:50:41,920
and there would be some evidence seen uh

1304
00:50:46,150 --> 00:50:43,839
of some kind of activity out there i

1305
00:50:49,670 --> 00:50:46,160
mean the the resolution of backyard

1306
00:50:51,349 --> 00:50:49,680
telescopes is now good enough to see uh

1307
00:50:53,349 --> 00:50:51,359
you know the remnants of limbs on the

1308
00:50:56,710 --> 00:50:53,359
moon and things like that so

1309
00:50:58,870 --> 00:50:56,720
i think it's very unlikely and uh you

1310
00:51:01,430 --> 00:50:58,880
know i i just uh

1311
00:51:03,750 --> 00:51:01,440
i find the stories about uh

1312
00:51:05,270 --> 00:51:03,760
you know military people fighting uh

1313
00:51:08,710 --> 00:51:05,280
battles with aliens on the moon and

1314
00:51:12,790 --> 00:51:10,950
you know i'm i'm more concerned about

1315
00:51:14,309 --> 00:51:12,800
what people are actually reporting in

1316
00:51:15,910 --> 00:51:14,319
the skies

1317
00:51:18,230 --> 00:51:15,920
uh that are being seen and well

1318
00:51:19,030 --> 00:51:18,240
witnessed and documented yeah closer to

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home

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okay with chris witkowski and gene and

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00:54:15,910 --> 00:54:14,630
oh yes we have to do a poll

1383
00:54:18,069 --> 00:54:15,920
at the powercast forums at

1384
00:54:20,710 --> 00:54:18,079
forum.powercast.com

1385
00:54:22,470 --> 00:54:20,720
chris rutkowski is one of the best at

1386
00:54:25,829 --> 00:54:22,480
the fine art

1387
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:25,839
of doing a stinger

1388
00:54:30,549 --> 00:54:27,930
i am a pole that's right

1389
00:54:32,309 --> 00:54:30,559
[Laughter]

1390
00:54:33,990 --> 00:54:32,319
so you'd win that one hands down that

1391
00:54:35,910 --> 00:54:34,000
one right there

1392
00:54:38,470 --> 00:54:35,920
let's do a poll that's right well what

1393
00:54:39,990 --> 00:54:38,480
do you think of the the the alleged dark

1394
00:54:43,109 --> 00:54:40,000
side or the back side of the moon and

1395
00:54:47,430 --> 00:54:43,119
the blair cuspids and you know partially

1396
00:54:50,390 --> 00:54:47,440
broken and uh down huge domes uh

1397
00:54:53,510 --> 00:54:50,400
there's a number of anomalies that have

1398
00:54:56,230 --> 00:54:53,520
been photographed the chinese supposedly

1399
00:54:58,549 --> 00:54:56,240
are going to uh i think

1400
00:54:59,829 --> 00:54:58,559
go there and do some mapping uh some

1401
00:55:01,190 --> 00:54:59,839
more mapping and that sort of thing

1402
00:55:02,230 --> 00:55:01,200
you'd probably be more up on all that

1403
00:55:03,670 --> 00:55:02,240
than i am

1404
00:55:05,109 --> 00:55:03,680
the indians are

1405
00:55:07,109 --> 00:55:05,119
talking about

1406
00:55:08,549 --> 00:55:07,119
doing some flights i think to is is it

1407
00:55:10,549 --> 00:55:08,559
the venus

1408
00:55:13,270 --> 00:55:10,559
that they're yeah a number of points so

1409
00:55:15,030 --> 00:55:13,280
we're seeing more of a multinational

1410
00:55:16,069 --> 00:55:15,040
uh interest in going to other planetary

1411
00:55:18,829 --> 00:55:16,079
bodies

1412
00:55:21,910 --> 00:55:18,839
is there any possibility that some sort

1413
00:55:23,589 --> 00:55:21,920
of smoking gun evidence will be

1414
00:55:25,109 --> 00:55:23,599
announced by

1415
00:55:27,349 --> 00:55:25,119
i guess you would call them rogue

1416
00:55:28,950 --> 00:55:27,359
nations that have uh that maybe don't

1417
00:55:30,950 --> 00:55:28,960
have the kind of agreements that the

1418
00:55:32,390 --> 00:55:30,960
western uh world does with with the

1419
00:55:35,109 --> 00:55:32,400
united states and

1420
00:55:36,549 --> 00:55:35,119
regard to aliens ufos that's going on

1421
00:55:38,230 --> 00:55:36,559
the assumption that there is such an

1422
00:55:39,750 --> 00:55:38,240
arrangement but do you think it's

1423
00:55:41,750 --> 00:55:39,760
possible that if there is something

1424
00:55:42,870 --> 00:55:41,760
there and the chinese and indians or or

1425
00:55:45,030 --> 00:55:42,880
whomever

1426
00:55:47,109 --> 00:55:45,040
uh the european space

1427
00:55:49,349 --> 00:55:47,119
federation type thing uh

1428
00:55:50,309 --> 00:55:49,359
if they see something do you think that

1429
00:55:51,750 --> 00:55:50,319
they would

1430
00:55:53,430 --> 00:55:51,760
make an announcement

1431
00:55:56,510 --> 00:55:53,440
well the outer space treaty which was

1432
00:55:59,430 --> 00:55:56,520
passed by the u.n back in

1433
00:56:02,069 --> 00:55:59,440
1965 even or something like that

1434
00:56:03,829 --> 00:56:02,079
and since updated um it does say that

1435
00:56:05,910 --> 00:56:03,839
all member nations and the indians and

1436
00:56:08,230 --> 00:56:05,920
the chinese are actually part of uh the

1437
00:56:09,349 --> 00:56:08,240
later agreements you know are bound

1438
00:56:11,430 --> 00:56:09,359
there's actually a statement in there

1439
00:56:13,910 --> 00:56:11,440
that you know activity on the moon

1440
00:56:15,829 --> 00:56:13,920
has to be reported to the united nations

1441
00:56:18,150 --> 00:56:15,839
governing body in terms of whatever

1442
00:56:19,430 --> 00:56:18,160
department that is on committee

1443
00:56:21,589 --> 00:56:19,440
um

1444
00:56:23,270 --> 00:56:21,599
i think that you know if the chinese

1445
00:56:24,950 --> 00:56:23,280
seem to have an interest in establishing

1446
00:56:26,150 --> 00:56:24,960
a base on the moon the indians appear

1447
00:56:27,910 --> 00:56:26,160
like you say you're going to go to

1448
00:56:29,670 --> 00:56:27,920
another planet

1449
00:56:31,589 --> 00:56:29,680
we're already very international i mean

1450
00:56:34,069 --> 00:56:31,599
the international space station is truly

1451
00:56:35,829 --> 00:56:34,079
international built up from

1452
00:56:37,750 --> 00:56:35,839
uh a number of nations that have

1453
00:56:39,190 --> 00:56:37,760
contributed to it so there's a lot of

1454
00:56:41,190 --> 00:56:39,200
international cooperation and it's

1455
00:56:43,589 --> 00:56:41,200
interesting that even during the

1456
00:56:45,510 --> 00:56:43,599
um the disagreements going on between

1457
00:56:47,750 --> 00:56:45,520
the united states and russia

1458
00:56:49,190 --> 00:56:47,760
that the cosmonauts and astronauts

1459
00:56:51,270 --> 00:56:49,200
themselves on board the international

1460
00:56:53,510 --> 00:56:51,280
space station uh continue their

1461
00:56:56,470 --> 00:56:53,520
cooperation and uh even now russia

1462
00:56:58,789 --> 00:56:56,480
continues to uh to launch our supply

1463
00:57:01,589 --> 00:56:58,799
ships you know so that there is a a

1464
00:57:02,630 --> 00:57:01,599
really good era of cooperation in space

1465
00:57:04,150 --> 00:57:02,640
right now

1466
00:57:05,990 --> 00:57:04,160
i mean i know there's been photographs

1467
00:57:07,510 --> 00:57:06,000
of this and photographs of that a lot of

1468
00:57:09,270 --> 00:57:07,520
it is interpretive

1469
00:57:11,109 --> 00:57:09,280
uh certainly there have been a few uh

1470
00:57:14,950 --> 00:57:11,119
touch-ups here and there

1471
00:57:16,549 --> 00:57:14,960
i don't see um any strong evidence

1472
00:57:19,190 --> 00:57:16,559
that uh

1473
00:57:21,829 --> 00:57:19,200
you know the uh that there are ancient

1474
00:57:23,829 --> 00:57:21,839
ancient aliens that have come here

1475
00:57:27,829 --> 00:57:23,839
even though i have my sukalicious uh

1476
00:57:30,309 --> 00:57:27,839
t-shirt and uh and a hat occasionally on

1477
00:57:32,470 --> 00:57:30,319
um i think it's unlikely that

1478
00:57:35,109 --> 00:57:32,480
uh that any of that was uh you know will

1479
00:57:36,630 --> 00:57:35,119
actually be found on the moon or mars or

1480
00:57:39,030 --> 00:57:36,640
wherever there's no question that

1481
00:57:42,150 --> 00:57:39,040
there'll be some anomalies in fact i'm

1482
00:57:45,190 --> 00:57:42,160
just going through some of my old files

1483
00:57:48,230 --> 00:57:45,200
and uh there is an a real phenomenon

1484
00:57:49,910 --> 00:57:48,240
called transient lunar phenomena

1485
00:57:52,230 --> 00:57:49,920
and these are lights

1486
00:57:54,390 --> 00:57:52,240
and um

1487
00:57:57,190 --> 00:57:54,400
other emanations that are seen on the

1488
00:57:59,510 --> 00:57:57,200
moon by earth-based telescopes

1489
00:58:01,589 --> 00:57:59,520
and uh they're actually quite a concern

1490
00:58:03,430 --> 00:58:01,599
um there's some suggestion that the moon

1491
00:58:06,069 --> 00:58:03,440
is still outgassing which is unusual

1492
00:58:07,190 --> 00:58:06,079
because it shouldn't be outgassing

1493
00:58:08,549 --> 00:58:07,200
but

1494
00:58:10,390 --> 00:58:08,559
in fact instruments were left on the

1495
00:58:12,710 --> 00:58:10,400
moon by some of the apollo missions to

1496
00:58:14,710 --> 00:58:12,720
check for that and some of them actually

1497
00:58:17,109 --> 00:58:14,720
registered some positive

1498
00:58:19,190 --> 00:58:17,119
uh readings uh but the fact that lights

1499
00:58:21,270 --> 00:58:19,200
have been seen on the moon for long

1500
00:58:22,630 --> 00:58:21,280
before the space program and and even

1501
00:58:25,270 --> 00:58:22,640
after that

1502
00:58:27,670 --> 00:58:25,280
is quite interesting and there is a one

1503
00:58:30,230 --> 00:58:27,680
program from corralitos observatory

1504
00:58:31,589 --> 00:58:30,240
which i think is in arizona or new

1505
00:58:34,470 --> 00:58:31,599
mexico

1506
00:58:37,270 --> 00:58:34,480
uh which specifically studied uh the

1507
00:58:40,789 --> 00:58:37,280
transient lunar phenomena uh involving

1508
00:58:43,510 --> 00:58:40,799
some uh very detailed cameras and uh

1509
00:58:45,670 --> 00:58:43,520
analysis of some of the uh uh reports

1510
00:58:48,390 --> 00:58:45,680
that were made by astronomers

1511
00:58:51,190 --> 00:58:48,400
and it's interesting that

1512
00:58:54,390 --> 00:58:51,200
uh the person in charge of that program

1513
00:58:57,910 --> 00:58:54,400
was none other than alan heineck of ufo

1514
00:59:01,030 --> 00:58:57,920
fame so not only was he looking into

1515
00:59:03,670 --> 00:59:01,040
ufo phenomena here on earth or over the

1516
00:59:05,829 --> 00:59:03,680
earth he was looking into ufo phenomena

1517
00:59:08,470 --> 00:59:05,839
on other worlds long before people

1518
00:59:10,549 --> 00:59:08,480
realized that that these things existed

1519
00:59:12,630 --> 00:59:10,559
and nobody knows about this chapter of

1520
00:59:14,390 --> 00:59:12,640
of his involvement

1521
00:59:15,589 --> 00:59:14,400
which i think is quite intriguing

1522
00:59:17,270 --> 00:59:15,599
because

1523
00:59:18,950 --> 00:59:17,280
it suggests that he was really trying to

1524
00:59:20,309 --> 00:59:18,960
understand the ufo phenomenon

1525
00:59:21,990 --> 00:59:20,319
scientifically

1526
00:59:24,230 --> 00:59:22,000
reasoning that if it's a natural

1527
00:59:26,950 --> 00:59:24,240
phenomenon maybe it will be occurring on

1528
00:59:27,990 --> 00:59:26,960
other worlds and uh hence the the moon

1529
00:59:30,829 --> 00:59:28,000
so

1530
00:59:33,670 --> 00:59:30,839
the fact that he was in charge of this

1531
00:59:35,510 --> 00:59:33,680
program uh in the

1532
00:59:38,390 --> 00:59:35,520
60s and uh

1533
00:59:40,230 --> 00:59:38,400
and into the 70s suggests that uh

1534
00:59:42,230 --> 00:59:40,240
there has been some you know some good

1535
00:59:45,910 --> 00:59:42,240
scientific data being collected all

1536
00:59:48,230 --> 00:59:45,920
along about ufos and i really advocate

1537
00:59:51,910 --> 00:59:48,240
the scientific approach so whereas there

1538
00:59:54,870 --> 00:59:51,920
are some interesting photographs and uh

1539
00:59:56,150 --> 00:59:54,880
claims of bases on the moon and and so

1540
00:59:57,510 --> 00:59:56,160
forth

1541
00:59:58,950 --> 00:59:57,520
there are ways of studying the

1542
01:00:01,030 --> 00:59:58,960
phenomenon that may yield some

1543
01:00:02,309 --> 01:00:01,040
interesting results if there is a base

1544
01:00:03,829 --> 01:00:02,319
on the moon maybe some of these

1545
01:00:05,270 --> 01:00:03,839
transient lunar phenomena can be

1546
01:00:08,870 --> 01:00:05,280
correlated with it

1547
01:00:10,710 --> 01:00:08,880
maybe uh now that other nations are

1548
01:00:13,109 --> 01:00:10,720
having flybys the chinese are going to

1549
01:00:15,910 --> 01:00:13,119
be going there maybe we can find out you

1550
01:00:17,829 --> 01:00:15,920
know what exactly is uh going on in some

1551
01:00:19,990 --> 01:00:17,839
of the craters where some uh lights have

1552
01:00:22,150 --> 01:00:20,000
been seen and things like that i think

1553
01:00:24,789 --> 01:00:22,160
that there will be a significant sharing

1554
01:00:27,030 --> 01:00:24,799
of information because um there it's in

1555
01:00:28,710 --> 01:00:27,040
the best interest of not just that

1556
01:00:30,549 --> 01:00:28,720
nation but other nations to try and

1557
01:00:32,309 --> 01:00:30,559
understand what's really going on what

1558
01:00:34,870 --> 01:00:32,319
do you think about the stories that come

1559
01:00:37,589 --> 01:00:34,880
up occasionally of weird artifacts

1560
01:00:39,510 --> 01:00:37,599
supposedly seen on the moon or on mars

1561
01:00:42,150 --> 01:00:39,520
like the face on mars

1562
01:00:44,470 --> 01:00:42,160
well you know i buy the the nasa version

1563
01:00:46,309 --> 01:00:44,480
um i don't think uh

1564
01:00:48,710 --> 01:00:46,319
that the face on mars is anything other

1565
01:00:52,390 --> 01:00:48,720
than a natural formation

1566
01:00:54,150 --> 01:00:52,400
and the the most recent high-res images

1567
01:00:56,789 --> 01:00:54,160
really do show that it's

1568
01:00:59,109 --> 01:00:56,799
just a trick of the light i don't

1569
01:01:00,870 --> 01:00:59,119
i don't think that it was a face uh you

1570
01:01:03,109 --> 01:01:00,880
know some sort of monument

1571
01:01:04,789 --> 01:01:03,119
that was produced and uh and i think

1572
01:01:07,510 --> 01:01:04,799
some people have now suggested that a

1573
01:01:09,430 --> 01:01:07,520
nuclear blast you know eroded it so it

1574
01:01:11,750 --> 01:01:09,440
looks less like a face now

1575
01:01:13,510 --> 01:01:11,760
um a nuclear blast i want to ask you

1576
01:01:14,950 --> 01:01:13,520
about that because we had a guest on the

1577
01:01:17,030 --> 01:01:14,960
show

1578
01:01:17,829 --> 01:01:17,040
a couple of times who maintains there

1579
01:01:20,390 --> 01:01:17,839
was

1580
01:01:24,710 --> 01:01:20,400
a nuclear explosion or a series of such

1581
01:01:25,829 --> 01:01:24,720
explosions many years ago on mars yes

1582
01:01:26,710 --> 01:01:25,839
okay

1583
01:01:29,030 --> 01:01:26,720
well

1584
01:01:30,710 --> 01:01:29,040
um i don't see the evidence for it uh

1585
01:01:33,030 --> 01:01:30,720
well there is evidence there's a there's

1586
01:01:35,349 --> 01:01:33,040
a a fairly consistent

1587
01:01:38,309 --> 01:01:35,359
thin layer of radiation over the

1588
01:01:41,190 --> 01:01:38,319
northern hemisphere of the planet well

1589
01:01:43,670 --> 01:01:41,200
it's dr john brandenburg he's uh

1590
01:01:45,190 --> 01:01:43,680
an optical physicist from wisconsin he's

1591
01:01:47,109 --> 01:01:45,200
the first one to propose a northern

1592
01:01:49,190 --> 01:01:47,119
ocean on mars which is now accepted by

1593
01:01:51,349 --> 01:01:49,200
the uh martian scientist

1594
01:01:52,710 --> 01:01:51,359
mars scientist

1595
01:01:54,470 --> 01:01:52,720
and he took their own data and

1596
01:01:56,870 --> 01:01:54,480
established that there appeared to have

1597
01:01:58,069 --> 01:01:56,880
been two air blast

1598
01:02:00,789 --> 01:01:58,079
um

1599
01:02:02,630 --> 01:02:00,799
detonations i think

1600
01:02:05,030 --> 01:02:02,640
a half a billion years ago 500 million

1601
01:02:07,510 --> 01:02:05,040
years ago if memory serves me correct

1602
01:02:09,750 --> 01:02:07,520
well i would i mean again i don't have

1603
01:02:10,870 --> 01:02:09,760
his data i haven't looked at his data

1604
01:02:12,710 --> 01:02:10,880
i'm not going to challenge him in that

1605
01:02:13,589 --> 01:02:12,720
sense but i would guess that there would

1606
01:02:15,910 --> 01:02:13,599
be

1607
01:02:18,390 --> 01:02:15,920
um you know thin layers of radioactive

1608
01:02:21,109 --> 01:02:18,400
particles because of course the you know

1609
01:02:22,870 --> 01:02:21,119
mars along with all other uh

1610
01:02:24,630 --> 01:02:22,880
bodies and our solar system have been

1611
01:02:27,589 --> 01:02:24,640
bombarded by

1612
01:02:30,069 --> 01:02:27,599
uh solar radiation and uh other bodies

1613
01:02:32,549 --> 01:02:30,079
you know tunguska was certainly uh uh

1614
01:02:34,309 --> 01:02:32,559
comet exploding and so forth so i

1615
01:02:36,390 --> 01:02:34,319
suspect that there you know would have

1616
01:02:38,549 --> 01:02:36,400
been some asteroid or comet that might

1617
01:02:41,270 --> 01:02:38,559
have left that to say that it was

1618
01:02:42,630 --> 01:02:41,280
definitely a nuclear bomb

1619
01:02:45,829 --> 01:02:42,640
or a blast

1620
01:02:47,829 --> 01:02:45,839
uh by some other civilization that's

1621
01:02:49,990 --> 01:02:47,839
that's sheer speculation the fact that

1622
01:02:52,470 --> 01:02:50,000
there's evidence of something

1623
01:02:54,710 --> 01:02:52,480
is is one thing but to suggest that it

1624
01:02:56,789 --> 01:02:54,720
was a nuclear detonation by a you know

1625
01:02:59,109 --> 01:02:56,799
some other civilization or a bomb that

1626
01:03:00,630 --> 01:02:59,119
is speculation and i i draw the line in

1627
01:03:02,150 --> 01:03:00,640
the sand i mean i can speculate all

1628
01:03:04,950 --> 01:03:02,160
along and as far as the underground

1629
01:03:07,349 --> 01:03:04,960
bases and things like that on earth go

1630
01:03:09,589 --> 01:03:07,359
uh just recently i said something along

1631
01:03:11,750 --> 01:03:09,599
the lines of um

1632
01:03:14,309 --> 01:03:11,760
i i have inside information that there's

1633
01:03:16,549 --> 01:03:14,319
an underground alien military base

1634
01:03:20,069 --> 01:03:16,559
underneath the pizza hut in downtown

1635
01:03:22,950 --> 01:03:20,079
boise and i dare you to prove me wrong

1636
01:03:24,789 --> 01:03:22,960
and you know it's impossible to to prove

1637
01:03:26,710 --> 01:03:24,799
negatives like that because one can

1638
01:03:28,870 --> 01:03:26,720
always come up with you know other

1639
01:03:30,870 --> 01:03:28,880
reasons why it still could be there even

1640
01:03:33,349 --> 01:03:30,880
though there's no evidence actually it's

1641
01:03:35,270 --> 01:03:33,359
at the domino's pizza it's the dog

1642
01:03:37,430 --> 01:03:35,280
yes it is yes it is but we have to break

1643
01:03:38,390 --> 01:03:37,440
now but not for pizza unless you're

1644
01:03:41,029 --> 01:03:38,400
hungry

1645
01:03:47,589 --> 01:03:41,039
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where do we go from here a underground

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in boise idaho they're probably a number

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of them probably yeah and maybe you'll

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indeed yeah i concentrate on uh as you

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know i focus more on the reports

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01:08:32,070 --> 01:08:30,159
themselves

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and uh i know that some people in on

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01:08:35,030 --> 01:08:33,600
your forum have asked some questions

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01:08:38,789 --> 01:08:35,040
about it as well

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i i don't have the 2015 data complete

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01:08:44,070 --> 01:08:41,199
yet where in fact we're probably a month

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01:08:45,910 --> 01:08:44,080
or so away from closing off the uh

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01:08:48,149 --> 01:08:45,920
the data for 2015. i know people are

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01:08:50,309 --> 01:08:48,159
still accepting reports for that

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01:08:52,470 --> 01:08:50,319
i know that we're

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right now i have somewhere in the

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neighborhood of

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01:08:59,910 --> 01:08:56,159
probably seven or eight hundred ufo

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01:09:01,829 --> 01:08:59,920
reports from canada alone for 2015.

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01:09:04,390 --> 01:09:01,839
uh a lot of them come from mufon a lot

1767
01:09:07,510 --> 01:09:04,400
of them come from peter davenport a lot

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01:09:10,630 --> 01:09:07,520
of people uh sending reports directly to

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01:09:12,309 --> 01:09:10,640
us at the canadian ufo survey people

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01:09:15,510 --> 01:09:12,319
have been sending them to

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uh ufo info i get uh canadian government

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01:09:21,990 --> 01:09:18,640
reports and uh we still get uh reports

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01:09:24,149 --> 01:09:22,000
from you know twitter and facebook and

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01:09:25,510 --> 01:09:24,159
and uh not not yet instagram but i'm

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01:09:27,189 --> 01:09:25,520
sure that's coming

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01:09:29,349 --> 01:09:27,199
but yeah we get we're continuing to get

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01:09:31,990 --> 01:09:29,359
in reports so i can't even give you a

1778
01:09:35,510 --> 01:09:32,000
breakdown i do know that i'm doing a bit

1779
01:09:38,390 --> 01:09:35,520
of a rough sort of cases that

1780
01:09:40,149 --> 01:09:38,400
seem sort of pedestrian versus ones that

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01:09:41,990 --> 01:09:40,159
aren't and by that i mean you know

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01:09:44,070 --> 01:09:42,000
somebody sees a light in the sky and

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01:09:46,630 --> 01:09:44,080
they live close to an airport

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01:09:48,390 --> 01:09:46,640
well it doesn't doesn't grab me it may

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01:09:49,910 --> 01:09:48,400
have an explanation that it may not but

1786
01:09:51,110 --> 01:09:49,920
it doesn't grab me as much as somebody

1787
01:09:53,669 --> 01:09:51,120
who sees

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01:09:55,510 --> 01:09:53,679
you know a large black triangle with a

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01:09:57,990 --> 01:09:55,520
hundred lights around its perimeter

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01:10:00,630 --> 01:09:58,000
flying low over their house and there

1791
01:10:03,430 --> 01:10:00,640
are a couple of cases like that

1792
01:10:05,030 --> 01:10:03,440
so um just from the rough sort i'd have

1793
01:10:07,669 --> 01:10:05,040
to say that

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01:10:10,390 --> 01:10:07,679
of the 800-ish

1795
01:10:11,990 --> 01:10:10,400
uh reports that are you know relatively

1796
01:10:15,910 --> 01:10:12,000
uninteresting there's probably about a

1797
01:10:17,590 --> 01:10:15,920
hundred that are somewhat interesting

1798
01:10:20,950 --> 01:10:17,600
and the problem is of course that most

1799
01:10:23,270 --> 01:10:20,960
of the cases still in this day and age

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01:10:25,910 --> 01:10:23,280
are not well investigated in fact not

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investigated at all

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01:10:29,270 --> 01:10:27,840
and that certainly causes a problem

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whether we're talking about canada or

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any other country around the world

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there are some you know some concerns

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that if the reports themselves the ufo

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reports are the basis upon which people

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can make pronouncements about aliens on

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the moon and underground bases and

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you know whether the aliens dress as

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nuns and walk around las vegas and so

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01:10:51,910 --> 01:10:49,040
forth

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01:10:54,630 --> 01:10:51,920
the reports themselves are are not

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sufficient to make those statements then

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01:10:59,669 --> 01:10:57,440
those statements are sheer speculation

1816
01:11:01,590 --> 01:10:59,679
and anybody and everybody can make those

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01:11:03,030 --> 01:11:01,600
things without uh anybody questioning

1818
01:11:04,470 --> 01:11:03,040
them and unfortunately i think that's

1819
01:11:06,310 --> 01:11:04,480
what's going on in ufology right now

1820
01:11:08,390 --> 01:11:06,320
that people are making statements and

1821
01:11:09,510 --> 01:11:08,400
there's no way to refute them because

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01:11:12,149 --> 01:11:09,520
there's no

1823
01:11:14,229 --> 01:11:12,159
evidence one way or another to uh to say

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01:11:16,550 --> 01:11:14,239
well that doesn't sound right or can you

1825
01:11:19,270 --> 01:11:16,560
prove that or anything like that but the

1826
01:11:22,390 --> 01:11:19,280
reports themselves are fascinating

1827
01:11:24,310 --> 01:11:22,400
because uh they range from um here's

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01:11:26,630 --> 01:11:24,320
here's a report and i'll just read it

1829
01:11:28,149 --> 01:11:26,640
out to you um this is uh the first of

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01:11:29,990 --> 01:11:28,159
september

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01:11:31,430 --> 01:11:30,000
from 2015.

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01:11:33,189 --> 01:11:31,440
and i'm just reading it out here a

1833
01:11:35,350 --> 01:11:33,199
person went out on a south facing

1834
01:11:38,870 --> 01:11:35,360
balcony noticed a large

1835
01:11:41,110 --> 01:11:38,880
dime sized bright glowing orange ball

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01:11:43,910 --> 01:11:41,120
with a fuzzy aura moving very fast from

1837
01:11:45,350 --> 01:11:43,920
south to northwest across the sky

1838
01:11:47,750 --> 01:11:45,360
seem to be traveling about three or four

1839
01:11:50,070 --> 01:11:47,760
times the speed of the plane after about

1840
01:11:53,189 --> 01:11:50,080
two minutes it made a blip

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01:11:55,110 --> 01:11:53,199
like an ekg like blip but at the same

1842
01:11:57,910 --> 01:11:55,120
time it got brighter faded got bright

1843
01:12:00,950 --> 01:11:57,920
again and then with a second or two sped

1844
01:12:04,229 --> 01:12:00,960
up shot forward and disappeared you know

1845
01:12:05,910 --> 01:12:04,239
that's just one of the many cases that

1846
01:12:09,030 --> 01:12:05,920
were reported

1847
01:12:10,790 --> 01:12:09,040
to a number of organizations last year

1848
01:12:12,229 --> 01:12:10,800
without talking to the witness and i

1849
01:12:14,070 --> 01:12:12,239
have to admit i have not talked with

1850
01:12:15,830 --> 01:12:14,080
this witness who is you know some

1851
01:12:17,830 --> 01:12:15,840
distance away from me i'm i'm here in

1852
01:12:18,790 --> 01:12:17,840
winnipeg and this person was somewhere

1853
01:12:22,070 --> 01:12:18,800
else

1854
01:12:24,149 --> 01:12:22,080
but um you know there's cases from one

1855
01:12:26,310 --> 01:12:24,159
end of the uh the country to the other i

1856
01:12:30,229 --> 01:12:26,320
mean imagine if there's a couple of

1857
01:12:31,590 --> 01:12:30,239
investigators in florida and alabama and

1858
01:12:35,030 --> 01:12:31,600
texas and

1859
01:12:36,950 --> 01:12:35,040
arizona and california you get a report

1860
01:12:38,709 --> 01:12:36,960
from oklahoma

1861
01:12:40,310 --> 01:12:38,719
well are you going to dash out there and

1862
01:12:41,830 --> 01:12:40,320
investigate or you're going to hope that

1863
01:12:44,149 --> 01:12:41,840
there's somebody in oklahoma or what if

1864
01:12:45,990 --> 01:12:44,159
you get a report from ohio or what if

1865
01:12:47,669 --> 01:12:46,000
you get a report from maine

1866
01:12:49,430 --> 01:12:47,679
who is going to be investigating these

1867
01:12:50,950 --> 01:12:49,440
cases if

1868
01:12:52,950 --> 01:12:50,960
if there's no one physically there and

1869
01:12:54,709 --> 01:12:52,960
there really are not that many ufo

1870
01:12:56,070 --> 01:12:54,719
investigators in canada at all there's

1871
01:12:58,950 --> 01:12:56,080
there's maybe

1872
01:13:01,030 --> 01:12:58,960
a dozen if i stretch it right now

1873
01:13:02,950 --> 01:13:01,040
and uh you know when you're looking at a

1874
01:13:04,390 --> 01:13:02,960
country that's as wide actually wider

1875
01:13:06,070 --> 01:13:04,400
than the united states

1876
01:13:08,070 --> 01:13:06,080
although the population is all scrunched

1877
01:13:10,310 --> 01:13:08,080
along the border you know there's a lot

1878
01:13:12,390 --> 01:13:10,320
of area there to cover if people see

1879
01:13:14,310 --> 01:13:12,400
ufos and and how are you possibly to

1880
01:13:15,750 --> 01:13:14,320
investigate i mean certainly some of the

1881
01:13:19,270 --> 01:13:15,760
cases can be

1882
01:13:21,669 --> 01:13:19,280
investigated over the phone via email

1883
01:13:24,310 --> 01:13:21,679
but to really investigate to get a sense

1884
01:13:26,149 --> 01:13:24,320
of what the witness has actually seen

1885
01:13:29,189 --> 01:13:26,159
it's necessary to

1886
01:13:30,950 --> 01:13:29,199
go to wherever that person lives and say

1887
01:13:32,390 --> 01:13:30,960
you know can you point out to me where

1888
01:13:34,790 --> 01:13:32,400
this happened and

1889
01:13:36,709 --> 01:13:34,800
and uh where in the sky did this occur

1890
01:13:38,630 --> 01:13:36,719
and how did it move and

1891
01:13:40,310 --> 01:13:38,640
and uh did the person you know whose

1892
01:13:42,790 --> 01:13:40,320
house is over that ridge that they see

1893
01:13:44,550 --> 01:13:42,800
it and you can go talk to that person so

1894
01:13:47,990 --> 01:13:44,560
there's a lot of investigation that

1895
01:13:50,550 --> 01:13:48,000
still needs to be done and it simply is

1896
01:13:52,709 --> 01:13:50,560
lacking in a lot of cases so i'd like to

1897
01:13:55,430 --> 01:13:52,719
see more investigation

1898
01:13:57,110 --> 01:13:55,440
but even without all the investigation

1899
01:13:58,790 --> 01:13:57,120
that we should have

1900
01:14:01,030 --> 01:13:58,800
collecting the data is a step in the

1901
01:14:02,950 --> 01:14:01,040
right direction we do get uh some

1902
01:14:04,470 --> 01:14:02,960
demographics on

1903
01:14:06,870 --> 01:14:04,480
you know what areas the country have

1904
01:14:08,470 --> 01:14:06,880
more cases what time of day

1905
01:14:09,910 --> 01:14:08,480
uh the shapes that are being reported

1906
01:14:11,030 --> 01:14:09,920
there are there's some trends from year

1907
01:14:13,669 --> 01:14:11,040
to year and we've been doing this

1908
01:14:16,870 --> 01:14:13,679
remember for more than 25 years i think

1909
01:14:18,229 --> 01:14:16,880
we're in our 27th year of doing this and

1910
01:14:20,470 --> 01:14:18,239
so that

1911
01:14:22,790 --> 01:14:20,480
we are seeing some some very interesting

1912
01:14:24,630 --> 01:14:22,800
results there's certainly no proof that

1913
01:14:26,950 --> 01:14:24,640
the aliens are visiting us but we're

1914
01:14:28,550 --> 01:14:26,960
seeing some interesting cases come every

1915
01:14:31,669 --> 01:14:28,560
year and every year there are some

1916
01:14:34,070 --> 01:14:31,679
residual cases that cannot be explained

1917
01:14:35,510 --> 01:14:34,080
as airplane stars

1918
01:14:37,270 --> 01:14:35,520
fireballs

1919
01:14:39,350 --> 01:14:37,280
uh planets

1920
01:14:41,189 --> 01:14:39,360
and so forth

1921
01:14:44,470 --> 01:14:41,199
but what they do tell us is that there's

1922
01:14:46,310 --> 01:14:44,480
a a phenomenon that is persistent

1923
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and has been occurring

1924
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on record for at least 27 years we can

1925
01:14:53,990 --> 01:14:51,199
verify the numbers and direction and so

1926
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forth and anecdotally much much farther

1927
01:14:58,950 --> 01:14:55,520
back than that so

1928
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it's an interesting exercise uh the more

1929
01:15:03,990 --> 01:15:01,840
data we get the better you know this can

1930
01:15:06,550 --> 01:15:04,000
be used for other studies i've already

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had requests for the database by other

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researchers so they can look for other

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things in the details it's a an

1934
01:15:15,030 --> 01:15:12,640
interesting study and i really think

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that at the very least the tabulation

1936
01:15:20,470 --> 01:15:18,880
and recording of ufo case data is one

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way to get a better understanding of

1938
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what's really going on uh in terms of

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ufos over the years there have been

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claims that ufo cases fall into certain

1941
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patterns i mean back in the 50s we had

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flying saucers in the straight line

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mystery

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and ley lines

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and things like that that they form

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patterns and if you look at those

1947
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patterns you might find areas that are

1948
01:15:47,110 --> 01:15:44,560
sometimes called window areas that seem

1949
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to attract more than their share of

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paranormal events but let's not

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have that answer now let's keep it as a

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cliffhanger for a moment because i want

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to tell you

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that i would like you listeners to check

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out the powercast plus at

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plus.thepowercast.com

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rutkowski will answer the question of

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the ages about patterns in

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ufos sightings window areas and such

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hi this is james fox from chasing ufos

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you're listening to the paracast the

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so the question is raised my friend

2067
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chris rutkowski

2068
01:21:10,310 --> 01:21:08,960
what do you see if anything

2069
01:21:13,590 --> 01:21:10,320
when it comes to

2070
01:21:16,390 --> 01:21:13,600
this patterning of ufo sightings well

2071
01:21:18,070 --> 01:21:16,400
you know um bruce cathy from australia

2072
01:21:20,790 --> 01:21:18,080
or new zealand um quite a number of

2073
01:21:22,950 --> 01:21:20,800
years ago suggested the lines of force

2074
01:21:23,830 --> 01:21:22,960
and uh the geomagnetic lines and so

2075
01:21:25,910 --> 01:21:23,840
forth

2076
01:21:28,870 --> 01:21:25,920
uh and i actually used tried to use his

2077
01:21:29,990 --> 01:21:28,880
calculations and the grid marks to

2078
01:21:32,149 --> 01:21:30,000
understand if

2079
01:21:35,669 --> 01:21:32,159
the ufo grid marks made any sense in

2080
01:21:39,030 --> 01:21:35,679
terms of canada from what i calculated

2081
01:21:41,430 --> 01:21:39,040
there was no overlap between nodes and

2082
01:21:42,550 --> 01:21:41,440
and areas where there were ufos seen

2083
01:21:45,189 --> 01:21:42,560
more than

2084
01:21:47,189 --> 01:21:45,199
than any other time having said that

2085
01:21:48,310 --> 01:21:47,199
there are a few places in canada at

2086
01:21:49,590 --> 01:21:48,320
least

2087
01:21:51,830 --> 01:21:49,600
where

2088
01:21:54,149 --> 01:21:51,840
there seem to be more ufos than there

2089
01:21:56,550 --> 01:21:54,159
should be if we're simply looking at a

2090
01:21:58,950 --> 01:21:56,560
nice uniform distribution and factoring

2091
01:22:02,310 --> 01:21:58,960
in population and so forth

2092
01:22:04,310 --> 01:22:02,320
uh one area is uh in near surrey british

2093
01:22:05,990 --> 01:22:04,320
columbia which is uh just a little bit

2094
01:22:07,990 --> 01:22:06,000
north of seattle

2095
01:22:10,390 --> 01:22:08,000
and uh there's actually been some

2096
01:22:13,510 --> 01:22:10,400
speculation it's actually referred to um

2097
01:22:15,590 --> 01:22:13,520
as the suri corridor where the ufo is

2098
01:22:17,910 --> 01:22:15,600
seen are seen to come through this

2099
01:22:19,030 --> 01:22:17,920
mountainous pass and and seen in greater

2100
01:22:21,430 --> 01:22:19,040
numbers than

2101
01:22:24,390 --> 01:22:21,440
uh than they should be also you have to

2102
01:22:27,750 --> 01:22:24,400
factor in things like flaps

2103
01:22:29,430 --> 01:22:27,760
um a ufo flap of course is a cluster of

2104
01:22:30,870 --> 01:22:29,440
ufos occurring in a certain area at a

2105
01:22:32,709 --> 01:22:30,880
certain time

2106
01:22:34,070 --> 01:22:32,719
um and you know is that a window or is

2107
01:22:36,149 --> 01:22:34,080
that just something that that is

2108
01:22:40,070 --> 01:22:36,159
transient i mean southern manitoba in

2109
01:22:42,870 --> 01:22:40,080
the 1970s had a very strong cluster of

2110
01:22:44,149 --> 01:22:42,880
ufos being reported and vanished now for

2111
01:22:45,750 --> 01:22:44,159
the most part

2112
01:22:48,390 --> 01:22:45,760
are there things happening more often

2113
01:22:50,870 --> 01:22:48,400
than not uh it's difficult to say i know

2114
01:22:54,629 --> 01:22:50,880
my colleagues in quebec

2115
01:22:56,229 --> 01:22:54,639
are seeing many more um cases than they

2116
01:22:57,669 --> 01:22:56,239
should be but you know they're also

2117
01:22:59,910 --> 01:22:57,679
investigating

2118
01:23:01,590 --> 01:22:59,920
uh a lot more uh

2119
01:23:04,229 --> 01:23:01,600
in the outlying areas in the french

2120
01:23:06,629 --> 01:23:04,239
countryside so they are able to to get

2121
01:23:10,310 --> 01:23:06,639
out and talk to more people so i'm

2122
01:23:12,229 --> 01:23:10,320
wondering whether what we think are

2123
01:23:14,229 --> 01:23:12,239
windows and flap areas are simply

2124
01:23:16,790 --> 01:23:14,239
effects of the fact that investigators

2125
01:23:18,390 --> 01:23:16,800
are looking into particular areas

2126
01:23:19,750 --> 01:23:18,400
now

2127
01:23:21,510 --> 01:23:19,760
there have been

2128
01:23:22,870 --> 01:23:21,520
historically some interesting window

2129
01:23:24,950 --> 01:23:22,880
areas you know people talk about

2130
01:23:27,590 --> 01:23:24,960
warminster in england and

2131
01:23:29,350 --> 01:23:27,600
uh certainly sedona and places like that

2132
01:23:31,110 --> 01:23:29,360
and i've i have some friends who are

2133
01:23:33,590 --> 01:23:31,120
from sedona and they say yeah absolutely

2134
01:23:36,149 --> 01:23:33,600
there seemed to be a lot of ufos

2135
01:23:38,229 --> 01:23:36,159
zipping around sedona all the time yeah

2136
01:23:40,149 --> 01:23:38,239
yeah i'm just down the hill

2137
01:23:42,070 --> 01:23:40,159
yeah so i don't know whether the san

2138
01:23:45,189 --> 01:23:42,080
luis valley too is another spot also

2139
01:23:47,189 --> 01:23:45,199
around white sands in new mexico

2140
01:23:48,390 --> 01:23:47,199
there's there's places

2141
01:23:50,470 --> 01:23:48,400
in california

2142
01:23:52,229 --> 01:23:50,480
out around joshua tree

2143
01:23:54,470 --> 01:23:52,239
uh parts of death valley mojave of

2144
01:23:56,310 --> 01:23:54,480
course that's pretty near palmdale in

2145
01:23:58,310 --> 01:23:56,320
the skunk works and other

2146
01:24:00,390 --> 01:23:58,320
exotic technology uh

2147
01:24:01,590 --> 01:24:00,400
development area so you know you can

2148
01:24:03,350 --> 01:24:01,600
make the argument that maybe some of

2149
01:24:05,350 --> 01:24:03,360
that's misidentified but but

2150
01:24:07,030 --> 01:24:05,360
traditionally i think these so-called

2151
01:24:10,149 --> 01:24:07,040
window areas

2152
01:24:12,149 --> 01:24:10,159
have more flaps in them and more

2153
01:24:13,669 --> 01:24:12,159
attention is placed on them

2154
01:24:16,149 --> 01:24:13,679
uh regionally

2155
01:24:17,990 --> 01:24:16,159
than other areas and uh and and i think

2156
01:24:20,390 --> 01:24:18,000
that there there is a strong case to be

2157
01:24:22,070 --> 01:24:20,400
made that there do seem to be

2158
01:24:23,830 --> 01:24:22,080
areas that seem to

2159
01:24:25,750 --> 01:24:23,840
feature more of this type activity

2160
01:24:29,030 --> 01:24:25,760
that's above and beyond

2161
01:24:31,590 --> 01:24:29,040
uh any sort of investigator being there

2162
01:24:33,189 --> 01:24:31,600
if the investigator shows up then

2163
01:24:35,910 --> 01:24:33,199
they're able to dig back

2164
01:24:37,750 --> 01:24:35,920
into police files

2165
01:24:41,350 --> 01:24:37,760
go to colleges astronomy departments

2166
01:24:43,910 --> 01:24:41,360
things like that talk with local

2167
01:24:45,189 --> 01:24:43,920
local residents and stuff and and start

2168
01:24:46,709 --> 01:24:45,199
to compile

2169
01:24:48,550 --> 01:24:46,719
you know disparate reports that never

2170
01:24:50,870 --> 01:24:48,560
were really put together into one place

2171
01:24:52,709 --> 01:24:50,880
which is very exactly what i did

2172
01:24:55,110 --> 01:24:52,719
from going three years not thinking

2173
01:24:56,470 --> 01:24:55,120
there's anything going on in an area

2174
01:24:57,990 --> 01:24:56,480
to just starting to look into it

2175
01:25:00,229 --> 01:24:58,000
casually and finding out there's all

2176
01:25:01,990 --> 01:25:00,239
sorts of things going on there and that

2177
01:25:04,229 --> 01:25:02,000
actually people knew about it but just

2178
01:25:05,750 --> 01:25:04,239
didn't talk about it yeah and there's no

2179
01:25:07,830 --> 01:25:05,760
question i've gone on

2180
01:25:09,590 --> 01:25:07,840
what are called ufo digs

2181
01:25:12,870 --> 01:25:09,600
where i've gone to an area where i had

2182
01:25:13,910 --> 01:25:12,880
not heard of ufo reports coming from

2183
01:25:16,390 --> 01:25:13,920
there

2184
01:25:18,629 --> 01:25:16,400
and i just you know went to the local

2185
01:25:21,590 --> 01:25:18,639
general store and the gas stations and

2186
01:25:23,990 --> 01:25:21,600
started asking around and lo and behold

2187
01:25:26,950 --> 01:25:24,000
like you say people are coming forward

2188
01:25:28,790 --> 01:25:26,960
slowly with uh with their ufo sightings

2189
01:25:30,310 --> 01:25:28,800
but only because i was asking around and

2190
01:25:31,990 --> 01:25:30,320
then you dig into the historical records

2191
01:25:34,870 --> 01:25:32,000
and you find more and more and people

2192
01:25:37,270 --> 01:25:34,880
were just reluctant to talk about them

2193
01:25:39,750 --> 01:25:37,280
yeah we'll continue chris i didn't want

2194
01:25:41,750 --> 01:25:39,760
i just wanted to digress a little bit

2195
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and give an example of

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01:25:45,110 --> 01:25:44,080
an area that i do feel is a window area

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01:25:49,590 --> 01:25:45,120
that

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until somebody came along and

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01:25:53,910 --> 01:25:51,520
really started digging into it that um

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01:25:54,950 --> 01:25:53,920
that word of a word of this activity got

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01:25:57,430 --> 01:25:54,960
out to the

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01:25:59,510 --> 01:25:57,440
you know into the larger public

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01:26:01,669 --> 01:25:59,520
yeah and then uh i can even go a little

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01:26:03,350 --> 01:26:01,679
bit further than that um when things

2205
01:26:05,030 --> 01:26:03,360
were happening in southern manitoba in

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01:26:07,430 --> 01:26:05,040
the 1970s

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01:26:09,110 --> 01:26:07,440
uh i you know would talk to a ufo

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01:26:11,030 --> 01:26:09,120
witness and uh

2209
01:26:12,390 --> 01:26:11,040
uh and then i would realize that if that

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01:26:14,629 --> 01:26:12,400
person had seen it then the person a

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01:26:15,990 --> 01:26:14,639
mile down the uh the road at their

2212
01:26:17,990 --> 01:26:16,000
farmhouse would have seen something so

2213
01:26:20,149 --> 01:26:18,000
i'd go and talk to that person and i'd

2214
01:26:22,629 --> 01:26:20,159
start out by saying well have you ever

2215
01:26:24,870 --> 01:26:22,639
seen anything unusual have has there any

2216
01:26:27,030 --> 01:26:24,880
been you know any unusual phenomena that

2217
01:26:29,669 --> 01:26:27,040
you've experienced or things like that

2218
01:26:31,270 --> 01:26:29,679
and they would say no no no nothing

2219
01:26:33,030 --> 01:26:31,280
nothing not at all

2220
01:26:34,629 --> 01:26:33,040
and uh as i was leaving you say okay

2221
01:26:36,470 --> 01:26:34,639
yeah good i have to you know finish

2222
01:26:37,350 --> 01:26:36,480
dowsing for my well

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01:26:39,030 --> 01:26:37,360
and

2224
01:26:41,110 --> 01:26:39,040
you know there's an overlap of some

2225
01:26:42,390 --> 01:26:41,120
paranormal phenomena there and then i

2226
01:26:43,910 --> 01:26:42,400
talked to somebody who'd say no we

2227
01:26:45,910 --> 01:26:43,920
haven't seen any ufos but mind you

2228
01:26:48,229 --> 01:26:45,920
there's some uh ghost lights hovering

2229
01:26:50,629 --> 01:26:48,239
over the cemetery you know just a mile

2230
01:26:52,149 --> 01:26:50,639
down the road and then there's a classic

2231
01:26:55,590 --> 01:26:52,159
case where

2232
01:26:57,350 --> 01:26:55,600
a ufo had been seen by an entire family

2233
01:26:59,990 --> 01:26:57,360
on a particular night and i would look

2234
01:27:02,310 --> 01:27:00,000
for additional witnesses and i didn't

2235
01:27:04,550 --> 01:27:02,320
find any additional witnesses to the ufo

2236
01:27:06,790 --> 01:27:04,560
that night but a mile away some people

2237
01:27:09,189 --> 01:27:06,800
had seen a sasquatch

2238
01:27:11,189 --> 01:27:09,199
um and so you're getting this overlap of

2239
01:27:13,270 --> 01:27:11,199
all these unusual phenomena and it's

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01:27:14,629 --> 01:27:13,280
very very tempting to say that they're

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01:27:17,110 --> 01:27:14,639
all related

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01:27:19,270 --> 01:27:17,120
um and uh you know john keel would just

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01:27:21,430 --> 01:27:19,280
uh you know be delighted with this type

2244
01:27:22,950 --> 01:27:21,440
of thing when he encountered them and i

2245
01:27:25,430 --> 01:27:22,960
have to admit at one point i was very

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01:27:27,110 --> 01:27:25,440
keelian in my approach uh uh you know

2247
01:27:29,590 --> 01:27:27,120
reading a lot of valley and keel really

2248
01:27:32,629 --> 01:27:29,600
got me going in into the the various

2249
01:27:34,790 --> 01:27:32,639
types of uh phenomena and for a while i

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01:27:36,790 --> 01:27:34,800
i was a full-fledged 14 looking into

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01:27:37,750 --> 01:27:36,800
virtually everything

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01:27:39,510 --> 01:27:37,760
um

2253
01:27:42,149 --> 01:27:39,520
that implies something there which is

2254
01:27:44,470 --> 01:27:42,159
that you are no longer in that category

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01:27:46,310 --> 01:27:44,480
is that correct yeah and the reason is

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01:27:49,030 --> 01:27:46,320
because i don't have the time i mean

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01:27:51,189 --> 01:27:49,040
there's uh it's uh

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01:27:53,590 --> 01:27:51,199
you know i spend all my free time

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01:27:55,510 --> 01:27:53,600
uh working on the ufo cases that come

2260
01:27:58,229 --> 01:27:55,520
across my desk i don't have time to look

2261
01:27:59,030 --> 01:27:58,239
into the sasquatch cases anymore and uh

2262
01:28:02,390 --> 01:27:59,040
the

2263
01:28:04,550 --> 01:28:02,400
actually

2264
01:28:06,870 --> 01:28:04,560
i've been invited to participate in some

2265
01:28:08,709 --> 01:28:06,880
uh seances and and ghost hunting

2266
01:28:10,390 --> 01:28:08,719
expeditions from time to time and

2267
01:28:11,990 --> 01:28:10,400
there's a one coming up that i can't go

2268
01:28:13,510 --> 01:28:12,000
to but you know there's people out there

2269
01:28:14,870 --> 01:28:13,520
who are doing that and that's where

2270
01:28:16,790 --> 01:28:14,880
their focus

2271
01:28:18,070 --> 01:28:16,800
lies rather than the ufos and that's

2272
01:28:19,750 --> 01:28:18,080
fine

2273
01:28:21,510 --> 01:28:19,760
and maybe there's a you know it opens

2274
01:28:23,350 --> 01:28:21,520
the door for good cooperation and

2275
01:28:28,470 --> 01:28:23,360
exchange of information in case there is

2276
01:28:31,750 --> 01:28:30,310
chris i thought you'd have a response to

2277
01:28:32,870 --> 01:28:31,760
that

2278
01:28:35,030 --> 01:28:32,880
uh well

2279
01:28:40,550 --> 01:28:35,040
um

2280
01:28:42,070 --> 01:28:40,560
uh over the years of in you know my 13

2281
01:28:43,830 --> 01:28:42,080
years in the san luis valley the 10

2282
01:28:44,709 --> 01:28:43,840
years of intensive investigative work

2283
01:28:51,750 --> 01:28:44,719
that

2284
01:28:56,390 --> 01:28:53,430
what would appear to be divergent

2285
01:28:57,590 --> 01:28:56,400
phenomena tend to ebb and flow uh in

2286
01:28:59,590 --> 01:28:57,600
concert

2287
01:29:01,110 --> 01:28:59,600
in other words if there was uh

2288
01:29:03,430 --> 01:29:01,120
and and not only that but strange

2289
01:29:06,550 --> 01:29:03,440
weather aberrant social behavior

2290
01:29:08,550 --> 01:29:06,560
um there tend to be periods where

2291
01:29:09,590 --> 01:29:08,560
you know reality seems to go a little

2292
01:29:12,310 --> 01:29:09,600
kooky

2293
01:29:15,350 --> 01:29:12,320
and all sorts of stuff you get reports

2294
01:29:17,430 --> 01:29:15,360
of crypto creatures uh ufo sightings

2295
01:29:20,310 --> 01:29:17,440
military convoys

2296
01:29:23,270 --> 01:29:20,320
uh we had one weekend where we had 12

2297
01:29:25,990 --> 01:29:23,280
weird fires and

2298
01:29:28,149 --> 01:29:26,000
the bridesmaid the the head bridesmaid

2299
01:29:29,750 --> 01:29:28,159
of at a wedding the sister of the bride

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01:29:31,990 --> 01:29:29,760
knifed her to death at the reception

2301
01:29:35,270 --> 01:29:32,000
just totally out of the blue they were

2302
01:29:36,629 --> 01:29:35,280
you know very very obviously very close

2303
01:29:39,030 --> 01:29:36,639
and all this stuff happened in two-day

2304
01:29:39,750 --> 01:29:39,040
period and stephen greer was in town

2305
01:29:41,830 --> 01:29:39,760
oh

2306
01:29:43,189 --> 01:29:41,840
well that was his fault then that's what

2307
01:29:45,830 --> 01:29:43,199
it is chris

2308
01:29:48,550 --> 01:29:45,840
stephen greer did doesn't matter what it

2309
01:29:51,669 --> 01:29:48,560
was doesn't matter when it was doesn't

2310
01:29:52,390 --> 01:29:51,679
matter where it was if stephen greer is

2311
01:29:54,070 --> 01:29:52,400
there

2312
01:29:56,470 --> 01:29:54,080
yeah now

2313
01:29:58,229 --> 01:29:56,480
all these events are are connected or

2314
01:30:00,070 --> 01:29:58,239
that they somehow

2315
01:30:03,270 --> 01:30:00,080
have a

2316
01:30:05,189 --> 01:30:03,280
they share some sort of you know causal

2317
01:30:07,189 --> 01:30:05,199
force or something i'm not saying that

2318
01:30:09,750 --> 01:30:07,199
at all i just find it very

2319
01:30:11,830 --> 01:30:09,760
intriguing that you should have you know

2320
01:30:13,830 --> 01:30:11,840
the entire sound the center portion of

2321
01:30:15,510 --> 01:30:13,840
the san luis valley freaking out for two

2322
01:30:17,270 --> 01:30:15,520
days and then everything's kind of back

2323
01:30:20,709 --> 01:30:17,280
to normal although it was in the middle

2324
01:30:22,390 --> 01:30:20,719
of a of an ongoing ufo flap yeah we have

2325
01:30:23,990 --> 01:30:22,400
to get back to normal for just a couple

2326
01:30:27,030 --> 01:30:24,000
of minutes

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01:30:29,820 --> 01:30:27,040
with chris rutkowski gene and kk you're

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in the bear cast

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[Music]

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you are listening to the paracast

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yes talking about patterns other things

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01:35:05,750 --> 01:35:04,080
happening

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john keel

2434
01:35:10,310 --> 01:35:08,000
charles fort all these other things

2435
01:35:13,270 --> 01:35:10,320
going on what do you think about some of

2436
01:35:15,590 --> 01:35:13,280
these more exotic theories

2437
01:35:18,310 --> 01:35:15,600
chris about ufos such as higher

2438
01:35:19,110 --> 01:35:18,320
dimensions and time travelers and all

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01:35:21,510 --> 01:35:19,120
that

2440
01:35:23,430 --> 01:35:21,520
well i have an issue about the the

2441
01:35:26,149 --> 01:35:23,440
dimensional type of thing

2442
01:35:28,950 --> 01:35:26,159
that a lot of the contactees are now

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saying that the aliens who contact them

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01:35:33,990 --> 01:35:31,679
are from other dimensions

2445
01:35:36,390 --> 01:35:34,000
i'm not sure that's the right term i

2446
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think it's a misuse of of the term

2447
01:35:41,110 --> 01:35:38,320
because in mathematics dimensions are

2448
01:35:42,870 --> 01:35:41,120
very understandable things and you'll

2449
01:35:45,350 --> 01:35:42,880
probably have you know heard the

2450
01:35:48,229 --> 01:35:45,360
the comments that uh you know there's 11

2451
01:35:50,470 --> 01:35:48,239
dimensions in our universe

2452
01:35:52,310 --> 01:35:50,480
and they're all folded in uh to one

2453
01:35:54,709 --> 01:35:52,320
another except for the three or four

2454
01:35:57,590 --> 01:35:54,719
that we see and can experience

2455
01:35:59,669 --> 01:35:57,600
the question is if there was a you know

2456
01:36:02,149 --> 01:35:59,679
a creature living in the eighth

2457
01:36:04,229 --> 01:36:02,159
dimension you know would we be aware of

2458
01:36:06,149 --> 01:36:04,239
its existence

2459
01:36:08,629 --> 01:36:06,159
and the reality is we all live

2460
01:36:11,270 --> 01:36:08,639
everything on this planet live in all 11

2461
01:36:13,910 --> 01:36:11,280
dimensions the problem is we simply

2462
01:36:17,590 --> 01:36:13,920
can't with our limited uh senses

2463
01:36:19,750 --> 01:36:17,600
experience all 11 of the dimensions but

2464
01:36:23,189 --> 01:36:19,760
an 8th dimensional being actually will

2465
01:36:24,709 --> 01:36:23,199
manifest in a three-dimensional world

2466
01:36:26,950 --> 01:36:24,719
uh and there will be some interactions

2467
01:36:28,790 --> 01:36:26,960
not that they're they're invisible you

2468
01:36:30,950 --> 01:36:28,800
know they can unfold a little bit more

2469
01:36:33,110 --> 01:36:30,960
than than we can and i have no idea how

2470
01:36:35,350 --> 01:36:33,120
that would be possible so we don't have

2471
01:36:36,149 --> 01:36:35,360
any fifth dimensional creatures

2472
01:36:38,790 --> 01:36:36,159
who

2473
01:36:40,149 --> 01:36:38,800
basically play mischief with us but you

2474
01:36:42,149 --> 01:36:40,159
can send them back to their fifth

2475
01:36:44,790 --> 01:36:42,159
dimension by making them say their name

2476
01:36:46,950 --> 01:36:44,800
backwards yes basically that's that's

2477
01:36:49,590 --> 01:36:46,960
how it works maybe in terms of instead

2478
01:36:51,990 --> 01:36:49,600
of dimension um you might say something

2479
01:36:54,790 --> 01:36:52,000
like parallel universe or you know

2480
01:36:56,550 --> 01:36:54,800
something like that but dimension is is

2481
01:36:58,870 --> 01:36:56,560
definitely not the right term as we

2482
01:37:01,030 --> 01:36:58,880
understand the mathematics of it

2483
01:37:02,550 --> 01:37:01,040
now do i think that

2484
01:37:03,910 --> 01:37:02,560
it's possible that there's a parallel

2485
01:37:07,270 --> 01:37:03,920
universe

2486
01:37:08,310 --> 01:37:07,280
just next to ours whatever that means in

2487
01:37:11,350 --> 01:37:08,320
physics

2488
01:37:14,709 --> 01:37:11,360
where the aliens are coming from i don't

2489
01:37:16,709 --> 01:37:14,719
know the the problem is nobody knows uh

2490
01:37:18,390 --> 01:37:16,719
and so people who tell me for sure that

2491
01:37:20,310 --> 01:37:18,400
the aliens come from another dimension

2492
01:37:22,709 --> 01:37:20,320
or they come from a parallel universe or

2493
01:37:24,550 --> 01:37:22,719
there's you know some sort of passageway

2494
01:37:25,669 --> 01:37:24,560
through time and consciousness and blah

2495
01:37:28,390 --> 01:37:25,679
blah blah

2496
01:37:30,470 --> 01:37:28,400
that's sheer speculation

2497
01:37:32,629 --> 01:37:30,480
and it's fine if you want to get into

2498
01:37:34,709 --> 01:37:32,639
the science fiction aspect again

2499
01:37:36,310 --> 01:37:34,719
but i think we have to get

2500
01:37:38,310 --> 01:37:36,320
down to earth

2501
01:37:40,070 --> 01:37:38,320
the the old line about the truth is out

2502
01:37:41,189 --> 01:37:40,080
there well unfortunately we're stuck

2503
01:37:43,350 --> 01:37:41,199
down here

2504
01:37:44,790 --> 01:37:43,360
and that's part of the issue you know

2505
01:37:47,109 --> 01:37:44,800
maybe we'll never get to the truth

2506
01:37:50,709 --> 01:37:47,119
because because we are stuck stuck down

2507
01:37:52,950 --> 01:37:50,719
here perhaps there are ways of doing

2508
01:37:54,870 --> 01:37:52,960
tests to to verify

2509
01:37:57,030 --> 01:37:54,880
uh that such dimensions really exist

2510
01:37:58,149 --> 01:37:57,040
that parallel universes do exist i know

2511
01:38:00,229 --> 01:37:58,159
there's been a

2512
01:38:02,470 --> 01:38:00,239
some suggestions that we are inside a

2513
01:38:05,669 --> 01:38:02,480
black hole or maybe we actually

2514
01:38:08,070 --> 01:38:05,679
are a hologram or maybe something else i

2515
01:38:09,430 --> 01:38:08,080
mean those are all really great great

2516
01:38:12,070 --> 01:38:09,440
concepts

2517
01:38:13,910 --> 01:38:12,080
but proving them to the satisfaction of

2518
01:38:16,470 --> 01:38:13,920
physicists and scientists

2519
01:38:18,470 --> 01:38:16,480
that's real tough so i have some issues

2520
01:38:20,310 --> 01:38:18,480
when i hear people you know tell me

2521
01:38:22,070 --> 01:38:20,320
about uh the aliens coming from this

2522
01:38:23,270 --> 01:38:22,080
dimension or that dimension or or

2523
01:38:25,910 --> 01:38:23,280
wherever

2524
01:38:27,510 --> 01:38:25,920
because it just doesn't make any sense

2525
01:38:29,430 --> 01:38:27,520
you know i know that some people talk

2526
01:38:31,750 --> 01:38:29,440
about well the aliens are deliberately

2527
01:38:33,590 --> 01:38:31,760
giving us false information to send us

2528
01:38:35,510 --> 01:38:33,600
off the track because we're not actually

2529
01:38:37,910 --> 01:38:35,520
quite ready to join the galactic club

2530
01:38:39,990 --> 01:38:37,920
and things like that you know i'm hoping

2531
01:38:40,950 --> 01:38:40,000
that aliens aren't jerks and doing that

2532
01:38:44,790 --> 01:38:40,960
to us

2533
01:38:47,510 --> 01:38:44,800
but they have pro bono proctologists who

2534
01:38:49,990 --> 01:38:47,520
who arrive and and do all this pro bono

2535
01:38:51,750 --> 01:38:50,000
work on abductees for

2536
01:38:54,070 --> 01:38:51,760
for no apparent reason yeah how do you

2537
01:38:55,350 --> 01:38:54,080
know they're pro bono chris

2538
01:38:58,390 --> 01:38:55,360
you don't leave a dollar for him on the

2539
01:39:00,390 --> 01:38:58,400
counter or anything or

2540
01:39:02,149 --> 01:39:00,400
i don't know i've never met an abductee

2541
01:39:05,830 --> 01:39:02,159
that had that uh that problem so i've

2542
01:39:09,430 --> 01:39:07,669
well i was going to say something about

2543
01:39:12,709 --> 01:39:09,440
this when you were talking about hillary

2544
01:39:15,430 --> 01:39:12,719
getting to the bottom of ufos oh yes i i

2545
01:39:16,470 --> 01:39:15,440
just i i resisted the temptation yeah of

2546
01:39:18,629 --> 01:39:16,480
course

2547
01:39:20,550 --> 01:39:18,639
well you're kind of stuck with that

2548
01:39:22,790 --> 01:39:20,560
you're obsessed with that i just think

2549
01:39:24,709 --> 01:39:22,800
it's a it's a funny term i actually i

2550
01:39:25,910 --> 01:39:24,719
borrowed it from terence mckenna

2551
01:39:27,590 --> 01:39:25,920
whenever people would talk about

2552
01:39:28,950 --> 01:39:27,600
abductions he'd go what

2553
01:39:30,310 --> 01:39:28,960
you know what's up with this abduction

2554
01:39:32,310 --> 01:39:30,320
thing man and people believe that

2555
01:39:34,629 --> 01:39:32,320
they're pro bono proctologists coming

2556
01:39:36,950 --> 01:39:34,639
from other star systems and

2557
01:39:38,709 --> 01:39:36,960
he makes a good point

2558
01:39:40,790 --> 01:39:38,719
well yeah i mean

2559
01:39:42,470 --> 01:39:40,800
the if they're the aliens are actually

2560
01:39:44,629 --> 01:39:42,480
coming here they'd want to test us in

2561
01:39:46,310 --> 01:39:44,639
some way and whether it's that

2562
01:39:48,709 --> 01:39:46,320
that way or something a little more

2563
01:39:50,870 --> 01:39:48,719
benign uh i mean i make the point that

2564
01:39:53,109 --> 01:39:50,880
it's completely unnecessary now

2565
01:39:55,030 --> 01:39:53,119
for aliens to actually interact with

2566
01:39:57,030 --> 01:39:55,040
people at all because

2567
01:39:58,790 --> 01:39:57,040
all you have to do is tune into cnn or

2568
01:40:00,870 --> 01:39:58,800
fox news from a distance and you get all

2569
01:40:03,109 --> 01:40:00,880
the information

2570
01:40:04,950 --> 01:40:03,119
that you need about this particular

2571
01:40:06,790 --> 01:40:04,960
planet would that be enough to scare any

2572
01:40:10,310 --> 01:40:06,800
aliens exactly go to the next star

2573
01:40:14,709 --> 01:40:12,390
of course the you know if they looked at

2574
01:40:18,390 --> 01:40:14,719
canadian news maybe they'd be

2575
01:40:21,590 --> 01:40:18,400
well we'd apologize to them mostly

2576
01:40:24,229 --> 01:40:21,600
do you apologize for america

2577
01:40:25,990 --> 01:40:24,239
oh i have to it's you constantly are you

2578
01:40:28,229 --> 01:40:26,000
kidding

2579
01:40:30,709 --> 01:40:28,239
me i just wonder what it looks like in

2580
01:40:33,430 --> 01:40:30,719
canada to all the craziness that's

2581
01:40:35,510 --> 01:40:33,440
happening in this country spelled donald

2582
01:40:38,149 --> 01:40:35,520
trump

2583
01:40:40,229 --> 01:40:38,159
well you know canada's ha has its uh has

2584
01:40:42,470 --> 01:40:40,239
its own issues too we have we we

2585
01:40:44,070 --> 01:40:42,480
apologize but we have both captain kirk

2586
01:40:47,669 --> 01:40:44,080
and paul hellyer

2587
01:40:48,830 --> 01:40:47,679
so you put those together and you know

2588
01:40:51,750 --> 01:40:48,840
hell to pay

2589
01:40:54,149 --> 01:40:51,760
hey although we also have pamela

2590
01:40:56,950 --> 01:40:54,159
anderson and uh we don't apologize for

2591
01:40:58,709 --> 01:40:56,960
that at all you also have scotty we have

2592
01:41:01,270 --> 01:40:58,719
scotty and and unfortunately we also

2593
01:41:04,629 --> 01:41:01,280
have justin bieber so oh my god really

2594
01:41:07,750 --> 01:41:04,639
he's canadian that explains it yeah well

2595
01:41:10,149 --> 01:41:07,760
what about your new premiere um

2596
01:41:11,590 --> 01:41:10,159
my new premiere premiere

2597
01:41:14,310 --> 01:41:11,600
oh uh

2598
01:41:15,590 --> 01:41:14,320
um justin trudeau right

2599
01:41:18,870 --> 01:41:15,600
well i mean

2600
01:41:21,350 --> 01:41:18,880
um he's certainly um

2601
01:41:23,510 --> 01:41:21,360
doing things in very very different ways

2602
01:41:27,750 --> 01:41:23,520
i mean he actually

2603
01:41:29,510 --> 01:41:27,760
goes dives right into a crowd to talk um

2604
01:41:30,870 --> 01:41:29,520
he's actually holding more news

2605
01:41:35,189 --> 01:41:30,880
conferences

2606
01:41:36,390 --> 01:41:35,199
in the past couple of months than the

2607
01:41:38,229 --> 01:41:36,400
previous

2608
01:41:41,750 --> 01:41:38,239
um prime minister

2609
01:41:43,270 --> 01:41:41,760
uh has uh prime minister i'm sorry yeah

2610
01:41:46,070 --> 01:41:43,280
premier that's why i was confused about

2611
01:41:48,070 --> 01:41:46,080
that uh the premier's another issue um

2612
01:41:50,950 --> 01:41:48,080
but um yeah then the previous prime

2613
01:41:52,629 --> 01:41:50,960
minister had throughout the past year um

2614
01:41:54,149 --> 01:41:52,639
but

2615
01:41:56,709 --> 01:41:54,159
um

2616
01:41:58,830 --> 01:41:56,719
he's he again he's focused on a lot of

2617
01:42:01,590 --> 01:41:58,840
interesting things

2618
01:42:04,950 --> 01:42:01,600
um you know he's been shirtless as often

2619
01:42:07,590 --> 01:42:04,960
as uh putin um he's cool i bet you the

2620
01:42:09,350 --> 01:42:07,600
girls like that the girls love him they

2621
01:42:10,790 --> 01:42:09,360
in fact i i think well he's he's a

2622
01:42:12,629 --> 01:42:10,800
hottie he's a young guy he's good

2623
01:42:15,590 --> 01:42:12,639
looking is well spoken

2624
01:42:17,669 --> 01:42:15,600
and he's got that uh that magical name

2625
01:42:20,310 --> 01:42:17,679
yeah yeah absolutely

2626
01:42:22,709 --> 01:42:20,320
um and of course uh his father

2627
01:42:23,910 --> 01:42:22,719
uh was actually in a and this goes you

2628
01:42:26,790 --> 01:42:23,920
know back to what we were talking about

2629
01:42:28,790 --> 01:42:26,800
earlier he was actually a villain in the

2630
01:42:31,669 --> 01:42:28,800
marvel comics universe

2631
01:42:33,830 --> 01:42:31,679
um uh that pier trudeau was a was a

2632
01:42:35,669 --> 01:42:33,840
villain he was actually in charge of a

2633
01:42:38,070 --> 01:42:35,679
organization that was uh ruling alpha

2634
01:42:40,390 --> 01:42:38,080
flight uh against the avengers so

2635
01:42:42,950 --> 01:42:40,400
you know uh

2636
01:42:47,189 --> 01:42:42,960
anybody who you know who can you know do

2637
01:42:49,910 --> 01:42:48,229
okay

2638
01:42:52,229 --> 01:42:49,920
uh i'm not gonna touch that one well do

2639
01:42:53,109 --> 01:42:52,239
you think that there's any hope for uh

2640
01:42:55,270 --> 01:42:53,119
uh

2641
01:42:57,189 --> 01:42:55,280
some sort of transparency or some sort

2642
01:43:00,070 --> 01:42:57,199
of governmental cooperation with the

2643
01:43:02,070 --> 01:43:00,080
civilian ufo uh

2644
01:43:03,830 --> 01:43:02,080
investigators up there i mean has anyone

2645
01:43:06,550 --> 01:43:03,840
talked about possibly approaching him

2646
01:43:09,270 --> 01:43:06,560
and seeing if he's open to

2647
01:43:11,669 --> 01:43:09,280
supplying some some funding some help

2648
01:43:14,310 --> 01:43:11,679
anything like that anybody uh

2649
01:43:16,310 --> 01:43:14,320
is there any scuttlebutt going on uh you

2650
01:43:18,550 --> 01:43:16,320
know related to that kind of effort

2651
01:43:20,629 --> 01:43:18,560
well actually i i haven't heard that but

2652
01:43:22,950 --> 01:43:20,639
uh you know even his predecessor during

2653
01:43:25,030 --> 01:43:22,960
the reign of his predecessor uh things

2654
01:43:26,709 --> 01:43:25,040
are pretty open up here you know i think

2655
01:43:29,189 --> 01:43:26,719
i made the point previously that in

2656
01:43:32,310 --> 01:43:29,199
terms of uh disclosure we've we've had a

2657
01:43:34,629 --> 01:43:32,320
pretty good run of uh easy access

2658
01:43:36,870 --> 01:43:34,639
information in fact do i have that and

2659
01:43:40,229 --> 01:43:36,880
with i thought i had something uh on my

2660
01:43:43,750 --> 01:43:40,239
desk right now um i received uh you know

2661
01:43:45,830 --> 01:43:43,760
uh two or three ufo reports from the uh

2662
01:43:47,350 --> 01:43:45,840
the canadian air force just since the

2663
01:43:50,950 --> 01:43:47,360
beginning of the year

2664
01:43:53,510 --> 01:43:50,960
and i've been getting those all along um

2665
01:43:54,470 --> 01:43:53,520
the uh you know the the reports are on

2666
01:43:57,109 --> 01:43:54,480
file

2667
01:43:59,590 --> 01:43:57,119
at the national archives of canada um i

2668
01:44:01,030 --> 01:43:59,600
think there's five or six thousand pages

2669
01:44:03,990 --> 01:44:01,040
of documents

2670
01:44:06,870 --> 01:44:04,000
uh on canadian ufo cases that are

2671
01:44:07,910 --> 01:44:06,880
available online now that anybody can

2672
01:44:08,870 --> 01:44:07,920
look at

2673
01:44:10,470 --> 01:44:08,880
um

2674
01:44:12,950 --> 01:44:10,480
you know there's uh you know we have

2675
01:44:14,550 --> 01:44:12,960
some pretty decent transparency uh in

2676
01:44:15,990 --> 01:44:14,560
terms of what's going on again you know

2677
01:44:17,350 --> 01:44:16,000
my caveat is do i think there's some

2678
01:44:18,870 --> 01:44:17,360
cases that we don't know about yeah i

2679
01:44:21,030 --> 01:44:18,880
don't think i get all the

2680
01:44:22,950 --> 01:44:21,040
you know all of the ufo cases

2681
01:44:25,350 --> 01:44:22,960
but you know when i get cases that come

2682
01:44:28,070 --> 01:44:25,360
through the uh the military and the rcmp

2683
01:44:29,910 --> 01:44:28,080
and and police i think i get a good good

2684
01:44:32,470 --> 01:44:29,920
chunk that's how i can you know get my

2685
01:44:34,390 --> 01:44:32,480
the numbers up to uh eight nine hundred

2686
01:44:37,750 --> 01:44:34,400
and into the thousands for some years

2687
01:44:40,310 --> 01:44:37,760
well that's that's pretty good um

2688
01:44:42,950 --> 01:44:40,320
source material i would think

2689
01:44:45,750 --> 01:44:42,960
absolutely relatively speaking to what

2690
01:44:47,270 --> 01:44:45,760
ufo investigators south of the border

2691
01:44:49,590 --> 01:44:47,280
here uh

2692
01:44:51,430 --> 01:44:49,600
uh deal with i mean it's

2693
01:44:53,270 --> 01:44:51,440
it's just some of the stuff that that

2694
01:44:55,350 --> 01:44:53,280
passes for you know people freaking out

2695
01:44:57,990 --> 01:44:55,360
and saying oh my god did you see that

2696
01:45:01,030 --> 01:44:58,000
footage and it's like you know

2697
01:45:02,870 --> 01:45:01,040
five glowing objects coming together and

2698
01:45:05,750 --> 01:45:02,880
going apart over a major city and

2699
01:45:07,750 --> 01:45:05,760
there's not one report filed anywhere by

2700
01:45:10,709 --> 01:45:07,760
anybody else so to me obviously it's a

2701
01:45:12,709 --> 01:45:10,719
hoax so let's do our break here

2702
01:45:14,470 --> 01:45:12,719
and then we'll find out whether

2703
01:45:15,430 --> 01:45:14,480
a lot of other things are hoaxes too or

2704
01:45:18,070 --> 01:45:15,440
not

2705
01:45:20,709 --> 01:45:18,080
with gene kk

2706
01:45:21,669 --> 01:45:20,719
and chris witkowski it's your turn chris

2707
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2708
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visit

2710
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[Music]

2763
01:47:53,109 --> 01:47:49,430
welcome back to the paracast the gold

2764
01:47:54,390 --> 01:47:53,119
standard of paranormal radio

2765
01:47:57,780 --> 01:47:54,400
and now

2766
01:48:01,030 --> 01:47:57,790
here's gene steinberg

2767
01:48:06,629 --> 01:48:03,590
he sounded like bob zanati

2768
01:48:08,790 --> 01:48:06,639
our staff announcer so to speak

2769
01:48:12,229 --> 01:48:08,800
he's going to sue you now for stealing

2770
01:48:13,910 --> 01:48:12,239
his voice okay yeah theft of voice

2771
01:48:15,669 --> 01:48:13,920
there you go i'm going to ask you kind

2772
01:48:17,350 --> 01:48:15,679
of an offhanded question based on

2773
01:48:18,950 --> 01:48:17,360
something that you talked about earlier

2774
01:48:19,910 --> 01:48:18,960
you don't believe in ancient astronauts

2775
01:48:20,790 --> 01:48:19,920
do you

2776
01:48:23,669 --> 01:48:20,800
um

2777
01:48:25,910 --> 01:48:23,679
i believe that statistically speaking it

2778
01:48:27,590 --> 01:48:25,920
is more likely that aliens visited us in

2779
01:48:30,310 --> 01:48:27,600
the past than they are visiting us right

2780
01:48:32,629 --> 01:48:30,320
now simply because of the long time

2781
01:48:34,229 --> 01:48:32,639
period we're looking at i don't think we

2782
01:48:36,629 --> 01:48:34,239
have enough

2783
01:48:38,470 --> 01:48:36,639
really indisputable evidence that you

2784
01:48:40,790 --> 01:48:38,480
know you know they're the aliens

2785
01:48:43,350 --> 01:48:40,800
definitely visited us in the past

2786
01:48:45,990 --> 01:48:43,360
but i think it's possible that it

2787
01:48:48,070 --> 01:48:46,000
occurred and having said that that's you

2788
01:48:49,109 --> 01:48:48,080
know not based on on any scientific

2789
01:48:51,030 --> 01:48:49,119
evidence

2790
01:48:53,590 --> 01:48:51,040
have you read the stories and the

2791
01:48:56,149 --> 01:48:53,600
legends as to where they think we see

2792
01:48:59,109 --> 01:48:56,159
indications of et visitation oh

2793
01:49:01,430 --> 01:48:59,119
absolutely in fact i uh spent some time

2794
01:49:03,910 --> 01:49:01,440
talking with eric von daniken himself

2795
01:49:06,229 --> 01:49:03,920
just a few years ago

2796
01:49:07,109 --> 01:49:06,239
and i found him to be a great guy i mean

2797
01:49:12,830 --> 01:49:07,119
uh

2798
01:49:16,229 --> 01:49:12,840
i really enjoy his presentations i i

2799
01:49:18,470 --> 01:49:16,239
think gobekli tepley is a very strange

2800
01:49:19,830 --> 01:49:18,480
place and i have no idea how that stuff

2801
01:49:23,270 --> 01:49:19,840
got there

2802
01:49:25,109 --> 01:49:23,280
do i think aliens made it i have no idea

2803
01:49:27,350 --> 01:49:25,119
my approach would be more to say you

2804
01:49:29,910 --> 01:49:27,360
know i really don't know

2805
01:49:31,750 --> 01:49:29,920
but rather than say aliens made it i

2806
01:49:33,990 --> 01:49:31,760
just sort of say hey that's one of the

2807
01:49:36,629 --> 01:49:34,000
really weird things in this world and i

2808
01:49:38,550 --> 01:49:36,639
think it needs to be studied more

2809
01:49:39,750 --> 01:49:38,560
and uh

2810
01:49:41,910 --> 01:49:39,760
you know i leave it for the

2811
01:49:43,830 --> 01:49:41,920
anthropologists and the archaeologists

2812
01:49:45,270 --> 01:49:43,840
to and the engineers

2813
01:49:47,510 --> 01:49:45,280
to try and figure out how those were

2814
01:49:49,270 --> 01:49:47,520
made

2815
01:49:51,430 --> 01:49:49,280
i've actually

2816
01:49:53,750 --> 01:49:51,440
earlier in my career

2817
01:49:55,510 --> 01:49:53,760
i was into archaeoastronomy and i

2818
01:49:59,270 --> 01:49:55,520
actually published a couple of papers on

2819
01:50:00,629 --> 01:49:59,280
some interesting linear mounds and

2820
01:50:03,030 --> 01:50:00,639
petra forms

2821
01:50:04,790 --> 01:50:03,040
up here in canada that made it into some

2822
01:50:07,590 --> 01:50:04,800
archaea astronomy journals

2823
01:50:10,070 --> 01:50:07,600
uh you know where um a particular

2824
01:50:12,310 --> 01:50:10,080
arrangement of boulders left by uh

2825
01:50:14,149 --> 01:50:12,320
indigenous uh peoples

2826
01:50:16,310 --> 01:50:14,159
uh many years ago

2827
01:50:18,629 --> 01:50:16,320
one of the alignments seemed to you know

2828
01:50:20,629 --> 01:50:18,639
be in line with uh the rising of the

2829
01:50:22,149 --> 01:50:20,639
moon on the solstice or or you know

2830
01:50:24,629 --> 01:50:22,159
something like that

2831
01:50:25,590 --> 01:50:24,639
uh you know it's very interesting to see

2832
01:50:27,590 --> 01:50:25,600
how

2833
01:50:29,750 --> 01:50:27,600
a lot of the uh you know the older

2834
01:50:31,350 --> 01:50:29,760
cultures that we think you know really

2835
01:50:32,790 --> 01:50:31,360
weren't that advanced had very

2836
01:50:34,629 --> 01:50:32,800
significant

2837
01:50:36,950 --> 01:50:34,639
uh knowledge about what was going on in

2838
01:50:39,189 --> 01:50:36,960
the sky which doesn't

2839
01:50:40,390 --> 01:50:39,199
really surprise me because

2840
01:50:41,750 --> 01:50:40,400
you know it's hard to imagine that in

2841
01:50:43,189 --> 01:50:41,760
these days where

2842
01:50:45,990 --> 01:50:43,199
you know you've got people listening to

2843
01:50:47,830 --> 01:50:46,000
us right now on uh on their phones and

2844
01:50:49,750 --> 01:50:47,840
and tablets as they're riding on the bus

2845
01:50:51,910 --> 01:50:49,760
or on a train somewhere

2846
01:50:53,830 --> 01:50:51,920
and uh you know you have a computer in

2847
01:50:56,310 --> 01:50:53,840
the palm of your hand and you can turn

2848
01:50:58,470 --> 01:50:56,320
on cable television and see you know

2849
01:51:00,790 --> 01:50:58,480
stream you know a thousand different

2850
01:51:02,950 --> 01:51:00,800
types of movies in one night

2851
01:51:05,430 --> 01:51:02,960
not that long ago

2852
01:51:07,030 --> 01:51:05,440
entertainment meant looking into the sky

2853
01:51:08,550 --> 01:51:07,040
and so

2854
01:51:10,870 --> 01:51:08,560
you know you gained a greater

2855
01:51:12,950 --> 01:51:10,880
appreciation of your environment without

2856
01:51:15,430 --> 01:51:12,960
any distractions

2857
01:51:17,669 --> 01:51:15,440
by looking and really looking at what's

2858
01:51:19,350 --> 01:51:17,679
in the sky and really looking at nature

2859
01:51:23,030 --> 01:51:19,360
and noticing how things

2860
01:51:26,149 --> 01:51:23,040
uh shift and compare and line up and how

2861
01:51:27,910 --> 01:51:26,159
things change with the seasons and

2862
01:51:30,310 --> 01:51:27,920
modify with time

2863
01:51:33,350 --> 01:51:30,320
so i think we don't have the best

2864
01:51:35,030 --> 01:51:33,360
appreciation of uh what life was like

2865
01:51:36,229 --> 01:51:35,040
two or three hundred years ago for

2866
01:51:38,550 --> 01:51:36,239
example

2867
01:51:40,229 --> 01:51:38,560
uh i think that uh you know there's a

2868
01:51:41,990 --> 01:51:40,239
you know i just imagine a thousand years

2869
01:51:43,750 --> 01:51:42,000
ago or two thousand years ago when the

2870
01:51:45,669 --> 01:51:43,760
pyramids were being built

2871
01:51:48,390 --> 01:51:45,679
that you know people seem to understand

2872
01:51:50,709 --> 01:51:48,400
alignments a lot better and and

2873
01:51:52,709 --> 01:51:50,719
when you think that the curvature of the

2874
01:51:54,550 --> 01:51:52,719
earth was determined by looking you know

2875
01:51:57,510 --> 01:51:54,560
from the bottom of a well

2876
01:51:59,270 --> 01:51:57,520
and you know things like that

2877
01:52:01,430 --> 01:51:59,280
it's very interesting to see how an

2878
01:52:02,870 --> 01:52:01,440
appreciation of our world has come

2879
01:52:04,870 --> 01:52:02,880
through insight into just an

2880
01:52:05,589 --> 01:52:04,880
appreciation of nature

2881
01:52:13,109 --> 01:52:05,599
so

2882
01:52:16,550 --> 01:52:13,119
the really weird stuff was you know

2883
01:52:17,510 --> 01:52:16,560
created by ancient astronauts or aliens

2884
01:52:19,589 --> 01:52:17,520
but

2885
01:52:21,350 --> 01:52:19,599
uh you know i just have to chalk that up

2886
01:52:23,189 --> 01:52:21,360
and shrug my shoulders and because i

2887
01:52:25,030 --> 01:52:23,199
don't have the answers and i can

2888
01:52:26,870 --> 01:52:25,040
speculate as much as anybody but that

2889
01:52:29,030 --> 01:52:26,880
doesn't mean that i'm right

2890
01:52:31,030 --> 01:52:29,040
you did make one point here that it was

2891
01:52:33,109 --> 01:52:31,040
more likely we had e.t

2892
01:52:35,669 --> 01:52:33,119
in the past than maybe now do you feel

2893
01:52:37,910 --> 01:52:35,679
then that the force behind the ufos

2894
01:52:40,229 --> 01:52:37,920
is all or mostly gone and that what we

2895
01:52:42,070 --> 01:52:40,239
see today maybe it's just misidentified

2896
01:52:43,030 --> 01:52:42,080
conventional objects when it's not a

2897
01:52:45,189 --> 01:52:43,040
hoax

2898
01:52:46,070 --> 01:52:45,199
well that's a very good point um

2899
01:52:49,510 --> 01:52:46,080
yeah

2900
01:52:51,589 --> 01:52:49,520
it is possible that um you know uh

2901
01:52:53,910 --> 01:52:51,599
aliens visited earth

2902
01:52:55,910 --> 01:52:53,920
when you know we were you know still in

2903
01:52:58,390 --> 01:52:55,920
the stone age for example

2904
01:53:00,550 --> 01:52:58,400
uh which really wasn't that long ago

2905
01:53:03,030 --> 01:53:00,560
when you think about it um because a lot

2906
01:53:05,030 --> 01:53:03,040
of the bible occurred in the bronze age

2907
01:53:07,990 --> 01:53:05,040
so that really you know is not that long

2908
01:53:10,709 --> 01:53:08,000
ago if you put it in that context either

2909
01:53:12,390 --> 01:53:10,719
um but uh given that you know we were

2910
01:53:14,790 --> 01:53:12,400
talking about thousands or millions of

2911
01:53:18,629 --> 01:53:14,800
years you know maybe aliens visited us

2912
01:53:21,270 --> 01:53:18,639
when uh you know the you know where homo

2913
01:53:22,629 --> 01:53:21,280
uh erectus was just starting to uh to

2914
01:53:24,390 --> 01:53:22,639
manifest i said you know what we're

2915
01:53:26,470 --> 01:53:24,400
gonna come back in about five thousand

2916
01:53:28,709 --> 01:53:26,480
years and see how they're doing

2917
01:53:30,870 --> 01:53:28,719
and uh you know maybe they're uh they're

2918
01:53:32,950 --> 01:53:30,880
due to come back any time now

2919
01:53:35,189 --> 01:53:32,960
or maybe it is that they are you know

2920
01:53:37,030 --> 01:53:35,199
have come back after two thousand years

2921
01:53:39,109 --> 01:53:37,040
or three thousand or five thousand and

2922
01:53:41,510 --> 01:53:39,119
said yeah you know let's keep an eye on

2923
01:53:44,310 --> 01:53:41,520
them a little bit more maybe we'll

2924
01:53:45,910 --> 01:53:44,320
abduct one for some experimentation and

2925
01:53:48,070 --> 01:53:45,920
uh you know put their earrings on

2926
01:53:49,750 --> 01:53:48,080
backwards or on different ears or other

2927
01:53:53,350 --> 01:53:49,760
people just to see if anybody notices

2928
01:53:56,149 --> 01:53:53,360
like like john mack had suggested

2929
01:53:57,669 --> 01:53:56,159
and uh you know maybe uh maybe we will

2930
01:53:59,510 --> 01:53:57,679
actually come out and reveal ourselves

2931
01:54:01,669 --> 01:53:59,520
someday in fact this whole thing of

2932
01:54:03,430 --> 01:54:01,679
disclosure when you think about it it's

2933
01:54:05,910 --> 01:54:03,440
actually up to the aliens not to us

2934
01:54:07,990 --> 01:54:05,920
right that if the aliens really wanted

2935
01:54:09,350 --> 01:54:08,000
uh us to know they're here regardless of

2936
01:54:10,709 --> 01:54:09,360
whether the government was keeping

2937
01:54:12,390 --> 01:54:10,719
anything from us

2938
01:54:14,709 --> 01:54:12,400
and i think we wouldn't have any choice

2939
01:54:16,709 --> 01:54:14,719
if the aliens decided to do it

2940
01:54:19,270 --> 01:54:16,719
that's the thing that's so worrisome

2941
01:54:21,589 --> 01:54:19,280
here if we have aliens

2942
01:54:23,589 --> 01:54:21,599
why aren't they making themselves known

2943
01:54:25,990 --> 01:54:23,599
and then you have to be suspicious of

2944
01:54:28,950 --> 01:54:26,000
people who claim to be in contact with

2945
01:54:31,990 --> 01:54:28,960
so-called space brothers with air quotes

2946
01:54:33,669 --> 01:54:32,000
or higher beings equal air quotes

2947
01:54:36,629 --> 01:54:33,679
because they're not interested in

2948
01:54:39,510 --> 01:54:36,639
contacting anybody you know anybody

2949
01:54:41,109 --> 01:54:39,520
famous it's the farmer in wisconsin so

2950
01:54:43,990 --> 01:54:41,119
he could try some of their lousy

2951
01:54:47,830 --> 01:54:45,589
just come to sedona

2952
01:54:48,629 --> 01:54:47,840
there's dozens and dozens of people that

2953
01:54:50,950 --> 01:54:48,639
are

2954
01:54:54,229 --> 01:54:50,960
in close personal contact uh on the

2955
01:54:57,350 --> 01:54:54,239
etheric with all kinds of beings zeus

2956
01:54:59,830 --> 01:54:57,360
the arcturians the palladians uh

2957
01:55:01,589 --> 01:54:59,840
uh the the list is endless how do you

2958
01:55:02,870 --> 01:55:01,599
know that how do you know if if somebody

2959
01:55:04,390 --> 01:55:02,880
says that i'm in contact with the

2960
01:55:05,430 --> 01:55:04,400
pleiadians

2961
01:55:08,229 --> 01:55:05,440
how do you know that it's really the

2962
01:55:09,990 --> 01:55:08,239
pleiadians well my point exactly i'm

2963
01:55:12,229 --> 01:55:10,000
being facetious here yeah that's one of

2964
01:55:14,070 --> 01:55:12,239
the reasons why i moved

2965
01:55:15,910 --> 01:55:14,080
i couldn't take it get away from those

2966
01:55:16,629 --> 01:55:15,920
pleiadians oh boy

2967
01:55:18,470 --> 01:55:16,639
yeah

2968
01:55:19,510 --> 01:55:18,480
all night and they smell and you know it

2969
01:55:20,950 --> 01:55:19,520
says stuff

2970
01:55:22,550 --> 01:55:20,960
well you know if you're in a spaceship

2971
01:55:24,390 --> 01:55:22,560
for five years and you never took a

2972
01:55:26,950 --> 01:55:24,400
shower well yeah

2973
01:55:28,629 --> 01:55:26,960
well the martian the movie great movie

2974
01:55:31,270 --> 01:55:28,639
by the way

2975
01:55:33,109 --> 01:55:31,280
that was very good very loved matt

2976
01:55:34,470 --> 01:55:33,119
damon's one of his best i thought he was

2977
01:55:37,270 --> 01:55:34,480
really good in it

2978
01:55:39,189 --> 01:55:37,280
he's gone back to playing bourne again

2979
01:55:41,109 --> 01:55:39,199
yes yeah people always loved the movie

2980
01:55:42,390 --> 01:55:41,119
but didn't like matt damon who knew you

2981
01:55:44,070 --> 01:55:42,400
know

2982
01:55:46,070 --> 01:55:44,080
well of course they had what jeremy

2983
01:55:48,149 --> 01:55:46,080
renner played another one of those

2984
01:55:48,950 --> 01:55:48,159
characters born franchise as they call

2985
01:55:53,270 --> 01:55:48,960
it

2986
01:55:55,510 --> 01:55:53,280
damon and the original or one of the

2987
01:55:57,350 --> 01:55:55,520
original directors from producers so

2988
01:55:59,750 --> 01:55:57,360
they're trying it again i guess when

2989
01:56:01,910 --> 01:55:59,760
they try to have this other born

2990
01:56:03,430 --> 01:56:01,920
character again the jeremy renner who's

2991
01:56:04,550 --> 01:56:03,440
also in mission impossible and the

2992
01:56:07,189 --> 01:56:04,560
avengers

2993
01:56:08,470 --> 01:56:07,199
to make him a similar or more powerful

2994
01:56:11,109 --> 01:56:08,480
character

2995
01:56:12,790 --> 01:56:11,119
it didn't really do that well it did

2996
01:56:14,390 --> 01:56:12,800
enough i guess to make

2997
01:56:15,669 --> 01:56:14,400
i liked the movie i thought it was good

2998
01:56:17,990 --> 01:56:15,679
i i was

2999
01:56:19,910 --> 01:56:18,000
always though as a kid was a huge ludlum

3000
01:56:21,510 --> 01:56:19,920
fan so i thought they've really done a

3001
01:56:23,350 --> 01:56:21,520
good job with the bourne

3002
01:56:25,189 --> 01:56:23,360
the bourne stories of course

3003
01:56:27,830 --> 01:56:25,199
the last couple i think were written by

3004
01:56:31,109 --> 01:56:27,840
ringers because ludlum died but

3005
01:56:33,830 --> 01:56:31,119
oh well listen look at james bond never

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ends yeah

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yeah who's the next bond it's going to

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nowhere

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it did i liked it though it's kind of a

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cute movie anyway why are we talking

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about this why are we talking i think

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they should have a transgender bond or a

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transsexual bond just to make it really

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so you see after the

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getting crazy all right let's talk about

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abductions here a little bit bring

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people up to date

3139
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chris's favorite subject

3140
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amongst all the sightings you're

3141
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collecting in recent years much

3142
02:02:21,589 --> 02:02:20,159
abduction activity anymore

3143
02:02:24,229 --> 02:02:21,599
no in fact

3144
02:02:27,669 --> 02:02:24,239
although i have to admit the the latest

3145
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bash the 2015s i would have to say that

3146
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there are probably

3147
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a half dozen to a dozen reports and

3148
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these are reports made to established

3149
02:02:38,709 --> 02:02:36,800
groups

3150
02:02:41,350 --> 02:02:38,719
uh i mean a lot of the abduction cases

3151
02:02:43,109 --> 02:02:41,360
you hear about are uh through

3152
02:02:44,790 --> 02:02:43,119
abduction researchers

3153
02:02:45,990 --> 02:02:44,800
you know who you know where who've been

3154
02:02:47,990 --> 02:02:46,000
studying them and they've been

3155
02:02:51,189 --> 02:02:48,000
regressing them and so forth but to

3156
02:02:55,030 --> 02:02:51,199
actually make uh an abduction report to

3157
02:02:57,189 --> 02:02:55,040
mufon or to peter davenport or ufo info

3158
02:02:59,030 --> 02:02:57,199
and organizations like that i think

3159
02:03:00,790 --> 02:02:59,040
that's quite interesting too to suggest

3160
02:03:01,669 --> 02:03:00,800
that it's really becoming mainstream as

3161
02:03:03,430 --> 02:03:01,679
well

3162
02:03:05,669 --> 02:03:03,440
uh if it hasn't been mainstream already

3163
02:03:07,350 --> 02:03:05,679
but just imagine me putting your name to

3164
02:03:08,790 --> 02:03:07,360
this type of thing

3165
02:03:11,030 --> 02:03:08,800
and putting it on a form and then

3166
02:03:13,189 --> 02:03:11,040
sending it into an organization

3167
02:03:16,229 --> 02:03:13,199
so i think there there are at least you

3168
02:03:18,470 --> 02:03:16,239
know maybe a dozen or so that i saw in

3169
02:03:20,149 --> 02:03:18,480
my quick glance through the reports as

3170
02:03:22,070 --> 02:03:20,159
i'm going through them

3171
02:03:23,589 --> 02:03:22,080
having said that of course the problem

3172
02:03:25,990 --> 02:03:23,599
with abduction

3173
02:03:29,430 --> 02:03:26,000
research and the abductions that i used

3174
02:03:31,350 --> 02:03:29,440
to investigate quite heavily

3175
02:03:33,270 --> 02:03:31,360
is that it does take a lot of time i

3176
02:03:35,030 --> 02:03:33,280
mean you get a ufo report in somebody

3177
02:03:36,629 --> 02:03:35,040
sees a triangle flying overhead you can

3178
02:03:38,629 --> 02:03:36,639
go to the person's house you can get

3179
02:03:40,149 --> 02:03:38,639
triangulation measurements you can get

3180
02:03:41,350 --> 02:03:40,159
an idea of how big it is you get them to

3181
02:03:43,109 --> 02:03:41,360
draw a picture

3182
02:03:44,870 --> 02:03:43,119
talk to neighbors and so forth you check

3183
02:03:47,270 --> 02:03:44,880
with airports you check with you know

3184
02:03:49,189 --> 02:03:47,280
this sort of thing it's an interesting

3185
02:03:50,310 --> 02:03:49,199
case that has a certain

3186
02:03:52,629 --> 02:03:50,320
structure

3187
02:03:54,629 --> 02:03:52,639
but if someone comes forward and says

3188
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that they believe they've been abducted

3189
02:03:58,709 --> 02:03:56,560
and it's been ongoing since they were a

3190
02:04:00,229 --> 02:03:58,719
child and

3191
02:04:02,229 --> 02:04:00,239
you know it's happening you know quite

3192
02:04:05,270 --> 02:04:02,239
regularly

3193
02:04:06,229 --> 02:04:05,280
that's a case that involves a lot of

3194
02:04:08,310 --> 02:04:06,239
time

3195
02:04:10,950 --> 02:04:08,320
uh if you want to work with a clinical

3196
02:04:13,109 --> 02:04:10,960
psychologist or clinical hypnotherapist

3197
02:04:15,430 --> 02:04:13,119
uh it may take several regression

3198
02:04:17,589 --> 02:04:15,440
sessions or several just even just

3199
02:04:19,510 --> 02:04:17,599
therapy sessions before you get to the

3200
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actual hypnotic regression points if

3201
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that's direction you're going to go so

3202
02:04:25,990 --> 02:04:23,840
it has to take a place over a course of

3203
02:04:27,750 --> 02:04:26,000
a several months and of course as you

3204
02:04:29,350 --> 02:04:27,760
progress there's going to be more you

3205
02:04:30,470 --> 02:04:29,360
know abduction experiences being

3206
02:04:33,189 --> 02:04:30,480
reported

3207
02:04:36,310 --> 02:04:33,199
and so forth so it takes a lot of effort

3208
02:04:38,310 --> 02:04:36,320
to investigate i think that's the ufo

3209
02:04:40,229 --> 02:04:38,320
reporting themselves if the reports

3210
02:04:42,310 --> 02:04:40,239
themselves and the sightings themselves

3211
02:04:44,070 --> 02:04:42,320
aren't investigated well just imagine

3212
02:04:45,910 --> 02:04:44,080
how much more difficult

3213
02:04:48,470 --> 02:04:45,920
it is for the average field investigator

3214
02:04:49,750 --> 02:04:48,480
for mufon to handle abduction

3215
02:04:50,470 --> 02:04:49,760
investigations

3216
02:04:52,470 --> 02:04:50,480
so

3217
02:04:55,589 --> 02:04:52,480
the problem is it takes a lot of effort

3218
02:04:58,629 --> 02:04:55,599
on the part of investigators to study uh

3219
02:05:00,149 --> 02:04:58,639
such cases now back in the i'm trying to

3220
02:05:01,669 --> 02:05:00,159
think now or

3221
02:05:04,149 --> 02:05:01,679
late 80s

3222
02:05:07,430 --> 02:05:04,159
early 90s i think it was when i actually

3223
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facilitated an abduction except i guess

3224
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a support group

3225
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um i you know had received some minor

3226
02:05:14,709 --> 02:05:12,960
training i was uh my minors in

3227
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psychology so i knew the

3228
02:05:19,109 --> 02:05:16,880
clinical psychology department members

3229
02:05:21,990 --> 02:05:19,119
quite well at the university uh took

3230
02:05:24,390 --> 02:05:22,000
some training and doing some therapy

3231
02:05:25,430 --> 02:05:24,400
worked with individuals who had come

3232
02:05:26,950 --> 02:05:25,440
forward

3233
02:05:28,229 --> 02:05:26,960
because they believed that they were

3234
02:05:29,510 --> 02:05:28,239
they had been abducted and had

3235
02:05:31,830 --> 02:05:29,520
experiences

3236
02:05:35,830 --> 02:05:31,840
and but it was done very

3237
02:05:38,550 --> 02:05:35,840
much like a any other clinical group um

3238
02:05:40,950 --> 02:05:38,560
that one would encounter like an uh

3239
02:05:42,390 --> 02:05:40,960
an abuse group or a

3240
02:05:45,109 --> 02:05:42,400
gambler's anonymous you know there were

3241
02:05:46,950 --> 02:05:45,119
strict guidelines on how to communicate

3242
02:05:49,270 --> 02:05:46,960
how the group had to run you know no

3243
02:05:52,310 --> 02:05:49,280
crosstalk and all this sort of stuff and

3244
02:05:53,350 --> 02:05:52,320
it was done in a very very clinical way

3245
02:05:56,070 --> 02:05:53,360
and

3246
02:05:57,750 --> 02:05:56,080
after about i think five or six months i

3247
02:06:00,470 --> 02:05:57,760
realized that the group was actually

3248
02:06:03,350 --> 02:06:00,480
better off running itself without my

3249
02:06:05,750 --> 02:06:03,360
involvement so i actually withdrew from

3250
02:06:07,030 --> 02:06:05,760
uh working with the updates abductee

3251
02:06:09,030 --> 02:06:07,040
support group

3252
02:06:11,990 --> 02:06:09,040
and uh yeah it continued for a number of

3253
02:06:13,990 --> 02:06:12,000
years um after that um i think that's

3254
02:06:17,030 --> 02:06:14,000
probably one of the the best ways to go

3255
02:06:18,470 --> 02:06:17,040
about uh this is to have people of like

3256
02:06:20,229 --> 02:06:18,480
mind

3257
02:06:22,950 --> 02:06:20,239
working with one another the danger

3258
02:06:25,510 --> 02:06:22,960
there of course is that if people are

3259
02:06:27,510 --> 02:06:25,520
delusional as one suggests some people

3260
02:06:29,510 --> 02:06:27,520
have suggested about abductions

3261
02:06:31,589 --> 02:06:29,520
having them feed off or encourage one

3262
02:06:32,629 --> 02:06:31,599
another's delusions is definitely not

3263
02:06:35,030 --> 02:06:32,639
healthy

3264
02:06:37,990 --> 02:06:35,040
so i would you know strongly recommend

3265
02:06:40,069 --> 02:06:38,000
that clinical psychologists be involved

3266
02:06:41,589 --> 02:06:40,079
with abduction research it's hard to

3267
02:06:43,990 --> 02:06:41,599
find people you know willing to take

3268
02:06:46,390 --> 02:06:44,000
them on not just people who have taken

3269
02:06:48,870 --> 02:06:46,400
courses and hypnosis and

3270
02:06:50,310 --> 02:06:48,880
uh believe that they themselves are

3271
02:06:52,069 --> 02:06:50,320
contactees and they're going to help

3272
02:06:53,589 --> 02:06:52,079
other people i think

3273
02:06:56,149 --> 02:06:53,599
the problem is

3274
02:06:59,350 --> 02:06:56,159
that there are other symptoms that may

3275
02:07:01,430 --> 02:06:59,360
mask as as contact

3276
02:07:02,709 --> 02:07:01,440
i had a number of people in the abductee

3277
02:07:05,030 --> 02:07:02,719
support group

3278
02:07:08,149 --> 02:07:05,040
one woman i remember who had

3279
02:07:10,390 --> 02:07:08,159
been raped the abduction memory

3280
02:07:14,470 --> 02:07:10,400
was a mask for that event there was

3281
02:07:17,189 --> 02:07:14,480
another person who uh was very depressed

3282
02:07:20,149 --> 02:07:17,199
and actually attempted suicide uh while

3283
02:07:21,910 --> 02:07:20,159
the course of the investigation

3284
02:07:22,790 --> 02:07:21,920
um and when you get into things like

3285
02:07:30,870 --> 02:07:22,800
that

3286
02:07:32,069 --> 02:07:30,880
ufo investigators and abduction

3287
02:07:32,790 --> 02:07:32,079
researchers

3288
02:07:37,830 --> 02:07:32,800
and

3289
02:07:39,990 --> 02:07:37,840
studied by clinical psychologists or

3290
02:07:43,669 --> 02:07:40,000
psychiatrists not because the people

3291
02:07:45,910 --> 02:07:43,679
themselves are crazy whatever that means

3292
02:07:49,589 --> 02:07:45,920
we try not to use those terms but

3293
02:07:51,030 --> 02:07:49,599
because whatever trauma has occurred

3294
02:07:53,189 --> 02:07:51,040
they're not dealing with it

3295
02:07:55,910 --> 02:07:53,199
appropriately or don't have the capacity

3296
02:07:57,350 --> 02:07:55,920
to deal with it and so they do need some

3297
02:07:59,430 --> 02:07:57,360
medical help

3298
02:08:01,189 --> 02:07:59,440
and professional help for dealing with

3299
02:08:03,990 --> 02:08:01,199
these issues

3300
02:08:06,310 --> 02:08:04,000
and for that reason i tried to to get

3301
02:08:09,750 --> 02:08:06,320
people who have had come to me with

3302
02:08:13,350 --> 02:08:09,760
abduction experiences to go to their own

3303
02:08:16,310 --> 02:08:13,360
doctor to go to a clinical psychologist

3304
02:08:19,109 --> 02:08:16,320
simply to help them resolve issues uh

3305
02:08:20,709 --> 02:08:19,119
regarding anxiety or depression

3306
02:08:22,790 --> 02:08:20,719
trauma that may have occurred in their

3307
02:08:24,870 --> 02:08:22,800
lives and so forth because i think

3308
02:08:26,709 --> 02:08:24,880
that's the best avenue i think it's

3309
02:08:27,510 --> 02:08:26,719
important that

3310
02:08:29,189 --> 02:08:27,520
you know

3311
02:08:31,030 --> 02:08:29,199
in terms of

3312
02:08:33,589 --> 02:08:31,040
medical advice you know the first rule

3313
02:08:35,109 --> 02:08:33,599
is first do no harm well

3314
02:08:38,629 --> 02:08:35,119
what does that mean when it when you

3315
02:08:40,310 --> 02:08:38,639
come to uh abduction uh cases what does

3316
02:08:42,550 --> 02:08:40,320
that mean when it comes to contact cases

3317
02:08:44,390 --> 02:08:42,560
people who are convinced that aliens are

3318
02:08:47,669 --> 02:08:44,400
watching their every move and directing

3319
02:08:49,350 --> 02:08:47,679
their every move and and so forth um is

3320
02:08:52,069 --> 02:08:49,360
there another way of handling it and is

3321
02:08:54,310 --> 02:08:52,079
there a way of doing it in a humanistic

3322
02:08:55,910 --> 02:08:54,320
a very humane way

3323
02:08:59,109 --> 02:08:55,920
of treating

3324
02:09:00,310 --> 02:08:59,119
the individuals again not that they are

3325
02:09:01,830 --> 02:09:00,320
somehow

3326
02:09:04,390 --> 02:09:01,840
mentally ill

3327
02:09:07,270 --> 02:09:04,400
in some cases that might be true

3328
02:09:09,510 --> 02:09:07,280
but simply because uh it's a way of

3329
02:09:11,270 --> 02:09:09,520
dealing with people who really do need

3330
02:09:13,669 --> 02:09:11,280
help and they need professional help in

3331
02:09:15,750 --> 02:09:13,679
dealing with experiences in their lives

3332
02:09:17,830 --> 02:09:15,760
question i have though is are

3333
02:09:19,510 --> 02:09:17,840
traditional mental health therapists

3334
02:09:21,109 --> 02:09:19,520
equipped to handle

3335
02:09:24,870 --> 02:09:21,119
this kind of case because we're dealing

3336
02:09:27,350 --> 02:09:24,880
something here that may be beyond the

3337
02:09:28,870 --> 02:09:27,360
ordinary because someone who believes

3338
02:09:30,709 --> 02:09:28,880
for whatever reason they're being

3339
02:09:32,390 --> 02:09:30,719
abducted by e.t

3340
02:09:33,510 --> 02:09:32,400
that's just not a normal case and i

3341
02:09:35,270 --> 02:09:33,520
would assume

3342
02:09:37,510 --> 02:09:35,280
they'd be regarded as maybe being a

3343
02:09:39,830 --> 02:09:37,520
little crazy absolutely and in fact

3344
02:09:41,830 --> 02:09:39,840
that's one of the problems is that

3345
02:09:45,350 --> 02:09:41,840
this the abduction phenomena hasn't been

3346
02:09:47,510 --> 02:09:45,360
studied enough or taken seriously enough

3347
02:09:50,149 --> 02:09:47,520
by clinical professionals having said

3348
02:09:52,629 --> 02:09:50,159
that um there was a paper

3349
02:09:54,950 --> 02:09:52,639
oh i'm thinking at least 30 years ago

3350
02:09:57,109 --> 02:09:54,960
maybe 40 years ago now

3351
02:09:59,430 --> 02:09:57,119
um of uh

3352
02:10:00,589 --> 02:09:59,440
that was published i think it was a

3353
02:10:04,550 --> 02:10:00,599
french

3354
02:10:06,069 --> 02:10:04,560
psychiatrist who was um his theory was

3355
02:10:09,109 --> 02:10:06,079
that people who

3356
02:10:12,709 --> 02:10:09,119
um believed in ufos

3357
02:10:15,030 --> 02:10:12,719
were uh psychotic and oh boy let's get

3358
02:10:17,189 --> 02:10:15,040
into that in our next segment okay

3359
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some people think i'm psychotic

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and you are listening to the paracast

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well if you think i'm psychotic listen

3471
02:15:07,270 --> 02:15:05,760
to that voice again go back to the

3472
02:15:08,550 --> 02:15:07,280
previous segment

3473
02:15:10,709 --> 02:15:08,560
and rewind

3474
02:15:12,229 --> 02:15:10,719
and listen to that voice okay so this

3475
02:15:14,470 --> 02:15:12,239
guy you're talking about

3476
02:15:15,350 --> 02:15:14,480
chris rutkowski thought that these

3477
02:15:17,990 --> 02:15:15,360
people

3478
02:15:19,830 --> 02:15:18,000
were psychotic well yeah his theory was

3479
02:15:22,709 --> 02:15:19,840
that people who um

3480
02:15:25,270 --> 02:15:22,719
who see ufos and uh and so forth are are

3481
02:15:28,149 --> 02:15:25,280
somehow delusional so what he did is

3482
02:15:29,910 --> 02:15:28,159
that he did a survey of psychiatric

3483
02:15:32,310 --> 02:15:29,920
institutions

3484
02:15:34,629 --> 02:15:32,320
there with the idea that if people are

3485
02:15:36,390 --> 02:15:34,639
delusional because they've seen ufos or

3486
02:15:38,390 --> 02:15:36,400
the other way around

3487
02:15:39,510 --> 02:15:38,400
that the psychiatric institutions would

3488
02:15:40,310 --> 02:15:39,520
be full

3489
02:15:42,390 --> 02:15:40,320
of

3490
02:15:45,030 --> 02:15:42,400
people who believe they've seen ufos and

3491
02:15:47,430 --> 02:15:45,040
had been contacted by aliens and lo and

3492
02:15:49,430 --> 02:15:47,440
behold he found very few people who are

3493
02:15:52,149 --> 02:15:49,440
institutionalized

3494
02:15:53,910 --> 02:15:52,159
who uh you know had were talking about

3495
02:15:55,430 --> 02:15:53,920
aliens and so forth

3496
02:15:56,870 --> 02:15:55,440
now that was a number of years ago i

3497
02:16:00,470 --> 02:15:56,880
don't know how that would reflect now

3498
02:16:02,790 --> 02:16:00,480
but what that says to me is that

3499
02:16:04,709 --> 02:16:02,800
proving that theory false

3500
02:16:07,910 --> 02:16:04,719
uh suggests that there's more to it

3501
02:16:09,430 --> 02:16:07,920
that's going on that perhaps it's uh

3502
02:16:14,950 --> 02:16:09,440
it's more

3503
02:16:16,790 --> 02:16:14,960
perhaps people who see ufos and i

3504
02:16:19,589 --> 02:16:16,800
believe they've been abducted

3505
02:16:23,030 --> 02:16:19,599
are highly functioning and uh you know

3506
02:16:24,870 --> 02:16:23,040
they can pump gas or or type in a

3507
02:16:26,870 --> 02:16:24,880
secretarial pool or teach at

3508
02:16:28,470 --> 02:16:26,880
universities even though they believe

3509
02:16:31,030 --> 02:16:28,480
that they've been abducted does that

3510
02:16:32,629 --> 02:16:31,040
mean that they have a mental illness or

3511
02:16:34,549 --> 02:16:32,639
does it mean that there's a real

3512
02:16:36,469 --> 02:16:34,559
phenomenon going on

3513
02:16:38,389 --> 02:16:36,479
that needs to be studied more and is

3514
02:16:39,750 --> 02:16:38,399
simply manifesting i mean

3515
02:16:41,509 --> 02:16:39,760
if you look at the numbers and the

3516
02:16:44,709 --> 02:16:41,519
percentages of people who have

3517
02:16:46,629 --> 02:16:44,719
depression in our society

3518
02:16:48,150 --> 02:16:46,639
or who have uh you know experienced

3519
02:16:50,950 --> 02:16:48,160
trauma in their lives and are still

3520
02:16:53,509 --> 02:16:50,960
highly functional would it be surprising

3521
02:16:55,190 --> 02:16:53,519
if abductees or contactees fall under

3522
02:16:57,429 --> 02:16:55,200
these categories of highly functioning

3523
02:16:58,709 --> 02:16:57,439
individuals who in every other way

3524
02:17:01,270 --> 02:16:58,719
appear normal

3525
02:17:02,469 --> 02:17:01,280
um maybe normal itself has to be

3526
02:17:05,030 --> 02:17:02,479
redefined

3527
02:17:06,950 --> 02:17:05,040
that it's common for people to

3528
02:17:09,110 --> 02:17:06,960
believe they've been abducted and

3529
02:17:12,230 --> 02:17:09,120
contacted by aliens does that mean that

3530
02:17:15,030 --> 02:17:12,240
the contact is really existing or is it

3531
02:17:17,910 --> 02:17:15,040
simply a matter of

3532
02:17:21,030 --> 02:17:17,920
this is what uh some people are like

3533
02:17:22,950 --> 02:17:21,040
it's i think there's a an amazing amount

3534
02:17:24,709 --> 02:17:22,960
of research that could be done by people

3535
02:17:26,950 --> 02:17:24,719
wanting to take a look at this i think

3536
02:17:29,509 --> 02:17:26,960
there's you know dozens of doctoral

3537
02:17:31,030 --> 02:17:29,519
theses and postdoctoral theses uh

3538
02:17:33,270 --> 02:17:31,040
waiting to be done

3539
02:17:34,870 --> 02:17:33,280
in the field of ufology does that imply

3540
02:17:37,190 --> 02:17:34,880
here that we're all just a little bit

3541
02:17:39,830 --> 02:17:37,200
crazy and sometimes that craziness

3542
02:17:42,629 --> 02:17:39,840
becomes more disturbing than other times

3543
02:17:44,389 --> 02:17:42,639
again you know i know john mack and a

3544
02:17:45,830 --> 02:17:44,399
few others and david jacobs are trying

3545
02:17:48,549 --> 02:17:45,840
to make the case that

3546
02:17:50,709 --> 02:17:48,559
there's no psychopathology uh involved

3547
02:17:52,870 --> 02:17:50,719
with ufology when it comes to ufo

3548
02:17:55,910 --> 02:17:52,880
witnesses and abductees i don't know if

3549
02:17:58,230 --> 02:17:55,920
that's necessarily true i mean susan um

3550
02:18:01,910 --> 02:17:58,240
what's her name blackmore

3551
02:18:03,790 --> 02:18:01,920
made the case that uh ufo abductees

3552
02:18:05,349 --> 02:18:03,800
did not display any overt uh

3553
02:18:07,349 --> 02:18:05,359
psychopathology

3554
02:18:08,870 --> 02:18:07,359
that they were of certainly normal in

3555
02:18:10,790 --> 02:18:08,880
every other way

3556
02:18:12,870 --> 02:18:10,800
and yet if you read john mack's books

3557
02:18:14,309 --> 02:18:12,880
you know he had cases case after case of

3558
02:18:16,549 --> 02:18:14,319
people who had been traumatized have

3559
02:18:18,070 --> 02:18:16,559
been marginalized who had been abused

3560
02:18:21,030 --> 02:18:18,080
number years later

3561
02:18:22,709 --> 02:18:21,040
had some abduction memories so i think

3562
02:18:24,629 --> 02:18:22,719
that there is still a lot of research

3563
02:18:26,709 --> 02:18:24,639
that needs to be done there was a

3564
02:18:28,230 --> 02:18:26,719
classic paper on

3565
02:18:30,150 --> 02:18:28,240
oh boy i'm trying to remember some of

3566
02:18:31,349 --> 02:18:30,160
these uh the scientific papers that have

3567
02:18:33,990 --> 02:18:31,359
been produced

3568
02:18:36,469 --> 02:18:34,000
uh i know jenny randles did some work in

3569
02:18:40,389 --> 02:18:36,479
this regard too about

3570
02:18:42,389 --> 02:18:40,399
people whose uh belief systems are uh

3571
02:18:44,549 --> 02:18:42,399
you know so strong that uh you know when

3572
02:18:46,230 --> 02:18:44,559
they encounter a refutation of their

3573
02:18:49,190 --> 02:18:46,240
beliefs they grab onto their beliefs

3574
02:18:50,549 --> 02:18:49,200
even stronger you know refusing to uh

3575
02:18:52,150 --> 02:18:50,559
you know to

3576
02:18:53,990 --> 02:18:52,160
to accept the fact that their beliefs

3577
02:18:55,990 --> 02:18:54,000
were somehow wrong

3578
02:18:57,990 --> 02:18:56,000
well then can we say because this is

3579
02:18:59,750 --> 02:18:58,000
following that almost anyone who reports

3580
02:19:03,190 --> 02:18:59,760
some kind of paranormal related

3581
02:19:05,110 --> 02:19:03,200
experience ufos ghosts whatever may have

3582
02:19:06,790 --> 02:19:05,120
some kind of pathology involved because

3583
02:19:08,790 --> 02:19:06,800
that's the implication i think some

3584
02:19:11,349 --> 02:19:08,800
debunkers would like to say that but i

3585
02:19:12,870 --> 02:19:11,359
don't think that that the evidence uh

3586
02:19:13,990 --> 02:19:12,880
the scientific evidence and the medical

3587
02:19:16,870 --> 02:19:14,000
evidence

3588
02:19:18,309 --> 02:19:16,880
bears that out what we can say is that

3589
02:19:20,709 --> 02:19:18,319
you know people are interested in some

3590
02:19:23,110 --> 02:19:20,719
very fascinating things these days and

3591
02:19:24,950 --> 02:19:23,120
and uh there's a fine line between

3592
02:19:27,270 --> 02:19:24,960
genius and insanity

3593
02:19:28,469 --> 02:19:27,280
uh you know when you look at uh you know

3594
02:19:30,549 --> 02:19:28,479
how uh

3595
02:19:33,110 --> 02:19:30,559
individuals who are very very

3596
02:19:35,110 --> 02:19:33,120
intelligent are often very interested in

3597
02:19:37,030 --> 02:19:35,120
uh some very unusual things i think stan

3598
02:19:39,669 --> 02:19:37,040
friedman himself looks at some of the

3599
02:19:41,190 --> 02:19:39,679
polls that show that the more education

3600
02:19:42,870 --> 02:19:41,200
you have the more likely you were to

3601
02:19:44,950 --> 02:19:42,880
believe in ufos

3602
02:19:47,349 --> 02:19:44,960
i i think the fact is that sometimes

3603
02:19:49,349 --> 02:19:47,359
people who are highly intelligent you

3604
02:19:52,309 --> 02:19:49,359
know are open to this possibility that

3605
02:19:54,150 --> 02:19:52,319
they are flirting with uh what is

3606
02:19:57,190 --> 02:19:54,160
impossible because that's the way that

3607
02:19:59,030 --> 02:19:57,200
advances in science are made in fact uh

3608
02:20:01,990 --> 02:19:59,040
there have been studies to show that you

3609
02:20:04,870 --> 02:20:02,000
know sometimes dream states and uh

3610
02:20:06,630 --> 02:20:04,880
working uh you know in uh where you're

3611
02:20:09,590 --> 02:20:06,640
sleep deprived and so forth actually

3612
02:20:11,750 --> 02:20:09,600
helps the creative process because uh

3613
02:20:13,750 --> 02:20:11,760
you know you know it allows the brain to

3614
02:20:15,349 --> 02:20:13,760
go off in different directions and then

3615
02:20:16,870 --> 02:20:15,359
you can come up with ideas you wouldn't

3616
02:20:19,590 --> 02:20:16,880
have if you're in a very structured

3617
02:20:21,190 --> 02:20:19,600
environment so it's actually good that

3618
02:20:23,830 --> 02:20:21,200
people are coming up with interesting

3619
02:20:26,309 --> 02:20:23,840
ideas about ufos and ancient astronauts

3620
02:20:28,070 --> 02:20:26,319
and theories like that because you know

3621
02:20:30,150 --> 02:20:28,080
it's a way of thinking about our world

3622
02:20:31,910 --> 02:20:30,160
in a very very different manner i can

3623
02:20:33,910 --> 02:20:31,920
mention maybe we have to redefine what's

3624
02:20:37,030 --> 02:20:33,920
normal in this society maybe people who

3625
02:20:39,670 --> 02:20:37,040
don't think about ufos and and our place

3626
02:20:41,910 --> 02:20:39,680
in the universe are the ones who are a

3627
02:20:45,830 --> 02:20:41,920
little less normal than the rest of us

3628
02:20:48,469 --> 02:20:45,840
or is our conception of reality so fluid

3629
02:20:50,550 --> 02:20:48,479
it's hard to define well reality isn't

3630
02:20:53,510 --> 02:20:50,560
an illusion it just seems that way

3631
02:20:55,429 --> 02:20:53,520
old joke to some people it's a nightmare

3632
02:20:56,950 --> 02:20:55,439
[Laughter]

3633
02:20:59,429 --> 02:20:56,960
i'm just waiting for the middle

3634
02:21:01,429 --> 02:20:59,439
middle-aged housewife from sudbury or

3635
02:21:03,510 --> 02:21:01,439
from burnaby or

3636
02:21:05,429 --> 02:21:03,520
outside of montreal to go

3637
02:21:08,070 --> 02:21:05,439
yeah i was abducted and the aliens they

3638
02:21:10,389 --> 02:21:08,080
did my nails check this out

3639
02:21:12,790 --> 02:21:10,399
and there's like some weird 3d hologram

3640
02:21:14,630 --> 02:21:12,800
that's you know embedded in the i'm just

3641
02:21:16,950 --> 02:21:14,640
waiting for some physical evidence i

3642
02:21:19,190 --> 02:21:16,960
mean come on give it up guys

3643
02:21:21,270 --> 02:21:19,200
or whatever you are well who was one of

3644
02:21:23,110 --> 02:21:21,280
the debunkers used to say um

3645
02:21:23,990 --> 02:21:23,120
how come the abductees never come back

3646
02:21:26,070 --> 02:21:24,000
with a

3647
02:21:28,150 --> 02:21:26,080
towel from the mars hilton or something

3648
02:21:29,990 --> 02:21:28,160
like that or an ash tree you know they

3649
02:21:32,070 --> 02:21:30,000
never come back with something like that

3650
02:21:34,550 --> 02:21:32,080
well maybe they don't have

3651
02:21:35,590 --> 02:21:34,560
towels there they use hot air or

3652
02:21:38,150 --> 02:21:35,600
something

3653
02:21:43,590 --> 02:21:38,160
well or that and the debunkers would be

3654
02:21:48,630 --> 02:21:46,230
well i'm not going to touch that one

3655
02:21:50,309 --> 02:21:48,640
that's an mc hammer yeah

3656
02:21:51,910 --> 02:21:50,319
you can't touch that

3657
02:21:53,670 --> 02:21:51,920
that's a little rough

3658
02:21:56,710 --> 02:21:53,680
before we get too rough here and we have

3659
02:21:58,630 --> 02:21:56,720
a segment and a third left with the show

3660
02:22:00,790 --> 02:21:58,640
do you think there's ever going to be a

3661
02:22:03,429 --> 02:22:00,800
final answer to this or is this part of

3662
02:22:04,309 --> 02:22:03,439
the process of discovering the universe

3663
02:22:06,230 --> 02:22:04,319
where it

3664
02:22:07,910 --> 02:22:06,240
just keeps expanding

3665
02:22:11,270 --> 02:22:07,920
you know i i couldn't have said it any

3666
02:22:15,110 --> 02:22:11,280
better uh gene i i think this is part of

3667
02:22:17,190 --> 02:22:15,120
the process of discovery of who we are

3668
02:22:20,230 --> 02:22:17,200
you know asking the questions

3669
02:22:21,590 --> 02:22:20,240
uh it's the only way to really get any

3670
02:22:23,910 --> 02:22:21,600
answers

3671
02:22:28,309 --> 02:22:23,920
if we didn't question

3672
02:22:30,870 --> 02:22:28,319
you know how things are you know we

3673
02:22:33,349 --> 02:22:30,880
wouldn't make any progress whatsoever

3674
02:22:35,910 --> 02:22:33,359
being complacent is not the way to make

3675
02:22:38,710 --> 02:22:35,920
some kind of progress so i think that

3676
02:22:40,790 --> 02:22:38,720
wondering uh about ufos and our place in

3677
02:22:43,349 --> 02:22:40,800
the universe is good and i've made the

3678
02:22:45,590 --> 02:22:43,359
point before that you know it's um

3679
02:22:48,150 --> 02:22:45,600
uh it's good to have an open mind but

3680
02:22:51,590 --> 02:22:48,160
not so open that your brains fall out

3681
02:22:54,469 --> 02:22:51,600
uh you it's good that we think about all

3682
02:22:56,870 --> 02:22:54,479
this possibility but you know there are

3683
02:22:58,950 --> 02:22:56,880
some you know i hate to say limitations

3684
02:23:00,630 --> 02:22:58,960
because we try to avoid limitations like

3685
02:23:02,950 --> 02:23:00,640
it's a bad word

3686
02:23:05,750 --> 02:23:02,960
but there are some limitations here that

3687
02:23:07,670 --> 02:23:05,760
if you accept everything

3688
02:23:10,790 --> 02:23:07,680
then um

3689
02:23:12,309 --> 02:23:10,800
truth is never going to come clear

3690
02:23:14,550 --> 02:23:12,319
if you

3691
02:23:17,030 --> 02:23:14,560
question everything

3692
02:23:19,270 --> 02:23:17,040
then you're going to be frozen without

3693
02:23:20,309 --> 02:23:19,280
any ability to move in any particular

3694
02:23:23,190 --> 02:23:20,319
direction

3695
02:23:26,469 --> 02:23:23,200
so there are some ultimate answers there

3696
02:23:27,750 --> 02:23:26,479
also there are some ultimate truths

3697
02:23:31,830 --> 02:23:27,760
and it's

3698
02:23:35,030 --> 02:23:31,840
being you know in a place to appreciate

3699
02:23:37,190 --> 02:23:35,040
those limitations that will make us get

3700
02:23:38,230 --> 02:23:37,200
forward i mean the fact that we are

3701
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talking

3702
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via skype which was developed you know

3703
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in a certain

3704
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programming language

3705
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you know you making use of electrons in

3706
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a very creative manner

3707
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it's just nothing that's willy-nilly

3708
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there are specific ways in which the

3709
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program works there are specific ways in

3710
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which

3711
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the technology works so that we can

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actually communicate and so that people

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can actually listen to us

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you know what we get into that situation

3717
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with my son on his travels but that's

3718
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too complicated to explain

3719
02:24:19,110 --> 02:24:17,280
chris witkowski is trying to answer the

3720
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questions of the universe

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02:28:49,590 --> 02:28:47,280
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3825
02:29:02,870 --> 02:29:00,880
so i gather from what you're saying you

3826
02:29:05,349 --> 02:29:02,880
don't think all these people who say we

3827
02:29:07,990 --> 02:29:05,359
gotta have disclosure the governments

3828
02:29:09,910 --> 02:29:08,000
know the truth we have to sit back and

3829
02:29:11,670 --> 02:29:09,920
let them tell us you don't think that's

3830
02:29:13,270 --> 02:29:11,680
going to happen no i really don't think

3831
02:29:15,030 --> 02:29:13,280
that's going to happen you know first of

3832
02:29:17,429 --> 02:29:15,040
all you know my own experience in canada

3833
02:29:19,190 --> 02:29:17,439
is i do get a lot of the cases um it's

3834
02:29:22,309 --> 02:29:19,200
unfortunate that in the united states

3835
02:29:23,790 --> 02:29:22,319
for example we do have this black hole

3836
02:29:26,070 --> 02:29:23,800
between

3837
02:29:28,469 --> 02:29:26,080
1970ish and the present when we don't

3838
02:29:30,550 --> 02:29:28,479
really know what is being reported and

3839
02:29:31,910 --> 02:29:30,560
experienced in terms of military ufo

3840
02:29:34,070 --> 02:29:31,920
reports and

3841
02:29:36,469 --> 02:29:34,080
general population but through the work

3842
02:29:37,830 --> 02:29:36,479
of mufon and peter davenport and and

3843
02:29:39,830 --> 02:29:37,840
brian vike and others we have a good

3844
02:29:42,150 --> 02:29:39,840
idea of what is being reported

3845
02:29:44,790 --> 02:29:42,160
internationally uh so we know the ufo

3846
02:29:46,309 --> 02:29:44,800
reports are are definitely occurring and

3847
02:29:47,830 --> 02:29:46,319
then occurring in greater numbers every

3848
02:29:50,389 --> 02:29:47,840
year according to the studies like ours

3849
02:29:51,750 --> 02:29:50,399
at the canadian ufo survey now does the

3850
02:29:54,309 --> 02:29:51,760
government have

3851
02:29:55,349 --> 02:29:54,319
you know secrets yes does the government

3852
02:29:58,630 --> 02:29:55,359
have

3853
02:30:00,710 --> 02:29:58,640
more information about ufos than we know

3854
02:30:02,389 --> 02:30:00,720
now yes i think it's established you

3855
02:30:04,630 --> 02:30:02,399
know we just one example of the united

3856
02:30:07,110 --> 02:30:04,640
states post blue book has a lot more

3857
02:30:10,309 --> 02:30:07,120
information about ufos

3858
02:30:12,710 --> 02:30:10,319
but does that mean that they are keeping

3859
02:30:15,429 --> 02:30:12,720
a secret that the aliens are really in

3860
02:30:16,469 --> 02:30:15,439
contact with us or that you know that

3861
02:30:20,870 --> 02:30:16,479
they're

3862
02:30:22,950 --> 02:30:20,880
and raising our consciousness and right

3863
02:30:24,550 --> 02:30:22,960
we have a treaty with them and yeah

3864
02:30:26,309 --> 02:30:24,560
we're allowing them to abduct people and

3865
02:30:27,830 --> 02:30:26,319
mutilate cattle in exchange for

3866
02:30:29,670 --> 02:30:27,840
technology uh

3867
02:30:30,870 --> 02:30:29,680
trade-offs it just

3868
02:30:32,790 --> 02:30:30,880
that you know i don't think we can

3869
02:30:34,950 --> 02:30:32,800
actually say that anybody who says that

3870
02:30:36,790 --> 02:30:34,960
we they know that for sure

3871
02:30:39,110 --> 02:30:36,800
um is just you know talking out of their

3872
02:30:41,590 --> 02:30:39,120
hands because it just we just don't have

3873
02:30:44,070 --> 02:30:41,600
that information and i don't think the

3874
02:30:47,030 --> 02:30:44,080
information is there now does that mean

3875
02:30:49,510 --> 02:30:47,040
that we should stop pursuing it oh i

3876
02:30:51,830 --> 02:30:49,520
don't think so i think that uh you know

3877
02:30:53,990 --> 02:30:51,840
the way we find out about uh

3878
02:30:55,670 --> 02:30:54,000
uh some of what's going on in our world

3879
02:30:57,830 --> 02:30:55,680
you know the reality battalion behind

3880
02:31:00,230 --> 02:30:57,840
you know who shot bin laden and so forth

3881
02:31:01,830 --> 02:31:00,240
comes from diligent journalists from a

3882
02:31:04,070 --> 02:31:01,840
public outcry

3883
02:31:05,670 --> 02:31:04,080
uh pursuing some of the questions that

3884
02:31:07,190 --> 02:31:05,680
are uh you know and you know that need

3885
02:31:09,910 --> 02:31:07,200
to be answered

3886
02:31:13,429 --> 02:31:09,920
uh so i think uh that it's still worth

3887
02:31:15,910 --> 02:31:13,439
pursuing uh although i'm not sure that

3888
02:31:18,710 --> 02:31:15,920
the million tweet uh march or whatever

3889
02:31:21,030 --> 02:31:18,720
it is and you know telling congress to

3890
02:31:22,630 --> 02:31:21,040
to hurry up and to pick it and all this

3891
02:31:25,830 --> 02:31:22,640
sort of stuff i'm not sure if that's the

3892
02:31:27,910 --> 02:31:25,840
way to do it i i suspect

3893
02:31:30,389 --> 02:31:27,920
that it would be more effective in other

3894
02:31:31,190 --> 02:31:30,399
diplomatic ways you know i don't think

3895
02:31:32,550 --> 02:31:31,200
that

3896
02:31:35,429 --> 02:31:32,560
you know raising the public

3897
02:31:38,070 --> 02:31:35,439
consciousness about ufos by constantly

3898
02:31:39,510 --> 02:31:38,080
posting things and and uh

3899
02:31:41,670 --> 02:31:39,520
you know sending out more tweets and

3900
02:31:43,510 --> 02:31:41,680
facebook posts and things like that i

3901
02:31:45,270 --> 02:31:43,520
don't think that's that's the way to do

3902
02:31:46,710 --> 02:31:45,280
it there are

3903
02:31:49,349 --> 02:31:46,720
many things in the universe that we

3904
02:31:51,030 --> 02:31:49,359
don't understand and i think it's worth

3905
02:31:53,750 --> 02:31:51,040
studying at the you know at the same

3906
02:31:55,349 --> 02:31:53,760
time as people are puzzled about what's

3907
02:31:57,830 --> 02:31:55,359
going on with regard to ufos and

3908
02:31:59,510 --> 02:31:57,840
disclosure i'm fascinated by some of the

3909
02:32:01,510 --> 02:31:59,520
aspects that are going on in the

3910
02:32:04,150 --> 02:32:01,520
scientific community right now

3911
02:32:06,630 --> 02:32:04,160
the fact that we filled up the last line

3912
02:32:08,630 --> 02:32:06,640
of the periodic table is who i never

3913
02:32:10,550 --> 02:32:08,640
thought i'd see that in my lifetime the

3914
02:32:13,030 --> 02:32:10,560
fact that there's a possibility we're

3915
02:32:15,910 --> 02:32:13,040
going to be landing on a on a comet

3916
02:32:18,070 --> 02:32:15,920
again or trying to to corral a comet or

3917
02:32:20,070 --> 02:32:18,080
an asteroid you know to me that's that's

3918
02:32:22,230 --> 02:32:20,080
fascinating and for gosh sakes if we

3919
02:32:24,870 --> 02:32:22,240
actually do get our act together and you

3920
02:32:26,950 --> 02:32:24,880
know send a small crew to mars

3921
02:32:28,230 --> 02:32:26,960
you know those are the steps that i

3922
02:32:30,150 --> 02:32:28,240
think will really advance our

3923
02:32:32,309 --> 02:32:30,160
civilization because

3924
02:32:34,950 --> 02:32:32,319
gotta be done it has to be done it's the

3925
02:32:37,429 --> 02:32:34,960
next step in our evolution and whether

3926
02:32:39,110 --> 02:32:37,439
that begins the galactic club or not i

3927
02:32:40,469 --> 02:32:39,120
don't know but uh it's it's something

3928
02:32:43,030 --> 02:32:40,479
that needs to be done

3929
02:32:45,750 --> 02:32:43,040
now are we in a situation here where

3930
02:32:48,150 --> 02:32:45,760
possibly the discovery or the

3931
02:32:49,590 --> 02:32:48,160
possibility of discovering all these

3932
02:32:51,990 --> 02:32:49,600
presumed

3933
02:32:53,429 --> 02:32:52,000
earth-type planets will lead us to the

3934
02:32:55,349 --> 02:32:53,439
realization

3935
02:32:57,510 --> 02:32:55,359
about the fact that one of them might

3936
02:33:00,389 --> 02:32:57,520
harbor intelligent life or more of them

3937
02:33:03,590 --> 02:33:00,399
or millions of them i i'm not a fan of

3938
02:33:05,510 --> 02:33:03,600
uh the whole cd program necessarily but

3939
02:33:08,469 --> 02:33:05,520
i think the search for

3940
02:33:10,630 --> 02:33:08,479
exoplanets is quite interesting and

3941
02:33:12,950 --> 02:33:10,640
we're just a matter of months or years

3942
02:33:14,389 --> 02:33:12,960
away from the discovery of a planet that

3943
02:33:16,790 --> 02:33:14,399
is really

3944
02:33:19,030 --> 02:33:16,800
like our earth i mean we have you know

3945
02:33:20,950 --> 02:33:19,040
super earths and super super earths and

3946
02:33:23,750 --> 02:33:20,960
things like that we don't have anything

3947
02:33:26,070 --> 02:33:23,760
that is really like our earth in a

3948
02:33:28,389 --> 02:33:26,080
habitable zone around another star but

3949
02:33:30,469 --> 02:33:28,399
it's coming you know even though kepler

3950
02:33:31,750 --> 02:33:30,479
you know took a holiday there still is

3951
02:33:33,429 --> 02:33:31,760
enough data out there and there's still

3952
02:33:34,469 --> 02:33:33,439
new discoveries by other instruments

3953
02:33:38,790 --> 02:33:34,479
that

3954
02:33:40,389 --> 02:33:38,800
another earth you know fairly soon in

3955
02:33:43,190 --> 02:33:40,399
astronomical terms

3956
02:33:45,110 --> 02:33:43,200
and to me that's exciting because at

3957
02:33:49,030 --> 02:33:45,120
least we'll have a starting point for

3958
02:33:51,670 --> 02:33:49,040
saying you know the beta pictoris system

3959
02:33:53,830 --> 02:33:51,680
has a planet that's exactly like earth

3960
02:33:56,230 --> 02:33:53,840
it's exactly the same age you know it's

3961
02:33:58,309 --> 02:33:56,240
had the same evolutionary path maybe

3962
02:34:00,550 --> 02:33:58,319
that's where we could start really

3963
02:34:03,670 --> 02:34:00,560
looking for life and focus our attention

3964
02:34:05,190 --> 02:34:03,680
on those particular star systems

3965
02:34:07,270 --> 02:34:05,200
and for me that's really something

3966
02:34:09,590 --> 02:34:07,280
because that could be the stepping stone

3967
02:34:11,270 --> 02:34:09,600
for ufology because we hear a lot about

3968
02:34:13,190 --> 02:34:11,280
pleiadians which doesn't really mean

3969
02:34:14,790 --> 02:34:13,200
anything to me because the pleiades is a

3970
02:34:17,270 --> 02:34:14,800
group of stars that aren't really close

3971
02:34:19,990 --> 02:34:17,280
to one another they just happen to be in

3972
02:34:21,349 --> 02:34:20,000
in the same plane and so forth so what

3973
02:34:23,590 --> 02:34:21,359
does that mean that they're from the

3974
02:34:26,630 --> 02:34:23,600
pleiades it doesn't really mean anything

3975
02:34:28,630 --> 02:34:26,640
uh arcturus is too large of a star you

3976
02:34:30,389 --> 02:34:28,640
know this type of thing but if we can

3977
02:34:32,790 --> 02:34:30,399
say that you know there there might be

3978
02:34:35,349 --> 02:34:32,800
life at the on this particular planet

3979
02:34:37,670 --> 02:34:35,359
around this particular star i think that

3980
02:34:39,510 --> 02:34:37,680
it would mean a little bit more to

3981
02:34:41,750 --> 02:34:39,520
ufology than a lot of the sheer

3982
02:34:44,150 --> 02:34:41,760
speculation about uh traveling across

3983
02:34:46,630 --> 02:34:44,160
the cosmos uh telepathically and so

3984
02:34:49,670 --> 02:34:46,640
forth well that's one way to go yep

3985
02:34:52,150 --> 02:34:49,680
absolutely saves energy or download your

3986
02:34:54,550 --> 02:34:52,160
consciousness into some kind of machine

3987
02:34:55,349 --> 02:34:54,560
i'm sure that uh steve jobs is gonna do

3988
02:34:59,830 --> 02:34:55,359
that

3989
02:35:01,990 --> 02:34:59,840
of the sci-fi novels i read where if

3990
02:35:03,910 --> 02:35:02,000
somebody wanted to go to another planet

3991
02:35:05,670 --> 02:35:03,920
he would upload or download his

3992
02:35:08,950 --> 02:35:05,680
consciousness to

3993
02:35:09,750 --> 02:35:08,960
a clone or some kind of duplicate and

3994
02:35:12,309 --> 02:35:09,760
that

3995
02:35:14,309 --> 02:35:12,319
separate individual would experience the

3996
02:35:16,550 --> 02:35:14,319
visit and maybe they'd merge later on

3997
02:35:19,270 --> 02:35:16,560
i'm not sure yeah i think james p hogan

3998
02:35:20,870 --> 02:35:19,280
had a series like that where it was our

3999
02:35:23,750 --> 02:35:20,880
avatars that actually visited other

4000
02:35:25,590 --> 02:35:23,760
planets not not actually us and you know

4001
02:35:27,990 --> 02:35:25,600
that makes a lot of sense because you

4002
02:35:30,710 --> 02:35:28,000
know if it's prohibitive for us to

4003
02:35:32,870 --> 02:35:30,720
travel to mars maybe having a virtual

4004
02:35:35,190 --> 02:35:32,880
trip to mars that can be shared by

4005
02:35:36,950 --> 02:35:35,200
everybody on earth simply by logging in

4006
02:35:38,950 --> 02:35:36,960
hey maybe that's the way to go well if

4007
02:35:40,630 --> 02:35:38,960
we can transfer all the sensations other

4008
02:35:43,030 --> 02:35:40,640
than of course not being able to breathe

4009
02:35:45,349 --> 02:35:43,040
with no atmosphere well you know at the

4010
02:35:46,950 --> 02:35:45,359
uh consumer electronics show that's

4011
02:35:49,190 --> 02:35:46,960
going on right now

4012
02:35:50,950 --> 02:35:49,200
virtual reality is it and there's

4013
02:35:54,309 --> 02:35:50,960
tactile gloves

4014
02:35:56,389 --> 02:35:54,319
for using inside video games uh you know

4015
02:35:58,550 --> 02:35:56,399
we're probably just um you know just a

4016
02:36:00,950 --> 02:35:58,560
matter of years away from full body

4017
02:36:02,550 --> 02:36:00,960
tactile suits and how that is going to

4018
02:36:04,469 --> 02:36:02,560
change with the computer interface it's

4019
02:36:06,469 --> 02:36:04,479
anybody's guess well several of our

4020
02:36:08,790 --> 02:36:06,479
regular guests at the tech night owl

4021
02:36:11,349 --> 02:36:08,800
live my other radio show are at the

4022
02:36:14,150 --> 02:36:11,359
consumer electronics show in las vegas

4023
02:36:15,510 --> 02:36:14,160
so next week not this week but next week

4024
02:36:17,030 --> 02:36:15,520
we kind of hope we'll have something

4025
02:36:19,750 --> 02:36:17,040
about that we're in the middle of a

4026
02:36:22,150 --> 02:36:19,760
torrential downpour ladies and gentlemen

4027
02:36:24,950 --> 02:36:22,160
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4028
02:36:26,389 --> 02:36:24,960
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4029
02:36:28,870 --> 02:36:26,399
please tell our listeners where they can

4030
02:36:31,110 --> 02:36:28,880
find more of the stuff that you do uh

4031
02:36:34,070 --> 02:36:31,120
you can find my work on the canadian ufo

4032
02:36:38,230 --> 02:36:34,080
survey that i do with uh jeff ditman at

4033
02:36:40,630 --> 02:36:38,240
survey dot canadian ufo report dot com

4034
02:36:44,070 --> 02:36:40,640
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4035
02:36:49,030 --> 02:36:46,469
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4037
02:36:51,590 --> 02:36:50,640
don't get a lot of action on twitter i

4038
02:36:53,429 --> 02:36:51,600
don't think

4039
02:36:55,510 --> 02:36:53,439
people really care about talking about

4040
02:36:57,990 --> 02:36:55,520
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4041
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4043
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4044
02:37:06,710 --> 02:37:04,080
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4045
02:37:08,550 --> 02:37:06,720
one is a community that's the difference

4046
02:37:09,349 --> 02:37:08,560
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4047
02:37:10,950 --> 02:37:09,359
well

4048
02:37:13,750 --> 02:37:10,960
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4049
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4079
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4080
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4081
02:38:33,429 --> 02:38:29,920
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4082
02:38:35,110 --> 02:38:33,439
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4083
02:38:37,110 --> 02:38:35,120
if he sees me he'll run away but that's

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another story meantime thanks for

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joining us on the powercast thank you

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it's been a pleasure

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[Music]

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the paracast featuring gene steinberg

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and christopher o'brien is a copyrighted

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presentation of making the impossible

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incorporated